What would this Labour government have to do to change your mind about them?

[StrongLikeMamma]

If you are considering voting for someone else, or not voting at all?

Deal with the actual issues and not allow people to be fooled any more by the immigration smoke screen.

Uphold womens EA2010 rights - now!!

Welfare reform. Tough but needs to be done else there’ll just be more and more tax raids every year.

Are you sure you're looking at the polls for the right country?

Not that far up North though. Not to the bits that really need it.

@StrongLikeMamma the extension bit is what I should have clarified.

Latest predictions are they will get 9 (!) seats at the next election. Can’t imagine which 9 constituencies have people deluded enough still to vote for them. Presumably those in which they have somehow bought a critical mass of actual voters by handing out ‘benefits’.

Control the borders to stop illegals coming in however they enter
Deport those already here illegally. Probably to Rwanda.
Sort out the Pakistani rape gangs. Get some heads rolling of those that covered the rapes up.
Extend the ILR qualification period as we can't afford it.

Cancel Net zero. Get drilling in the North Sea using the Norwegian's new technology. They like being rich and know how to do it.

Have a plan to reduce spending on benefits and health as those two things are the main and largest expenditure of the UK. Labour MPs need to act for future generations as well as current.

Stop giving large pay rises to the public sector without reform.

Raise the pension age. It's going to have to happen eventually..we may as well know when.

Cancel the ridiculous Chagos deal that no one can explain

Reduce ENI and shelve the workers rights amendments. These are both suppressing the jobs market particularly for young people

Give incentives to private landlords to be landlords. Currently its not worth the hassle.

Repeal VAT on education. It's a regressive move. Get Latin back in state schools. It's symbolic of rigour and standards in education hence why Brigette Phllipson doesn't like it

DEI and quotas needs to go. Its distorting recruitment particularly in the police and forces. We need the best people even if they have white skin and are male.

Give business and corporation.tax breaks to poor regions such as the NE to encourage people to want work there and be able to earn a decent wage including professionals, as those areas need more people with wealth. Otherwise all the able people bugger off to London.

They won't do any of these things of course.

They'd have to resign

Labour MPs are not serious, intelligent, credible people. For that reason there is absolutely nothing they could do to get a vote from me.

The funny thing is, at some point the rather deluded left-wing of the Labour Party will have no choice but to accept welfare cuts need to be made. This is because none of them are going to want to explain recurring tax hikes to their working constituents year after year. So then the party would have pissed off the working people as they like to call us, and the people on benefits. By the time the next election rules around, I’d be surprised if they got a single vote.

They principally need to do what they said they would. Their whole campaign was about change but all that seems to have really changed is the party of the ministers getting kicked out for breaching the rules.

They need to drive growth by improving the environment for business, lower regulation etc, not by increasing jobs taxes. Unemployment is on the way up it is no surprise given the increase in NMW and NI.

They need to deliver the welfare reform they promised not just keep on building the welfare state.

Not increasing taxes again as they promised.,

Starmer knows all of this - he is what he talked about before the election.

Evidence that their government is having a positive impact on this country. It’s now over a year since they came into power and I still have no idea what their strategy is! All we see is repeated gaffs, U-turns, dithering and excuses. They need to make some impactful changes now, and hope that they have put the country into a better place before the next GE.

Scrap the private school VAT. Stop threatening to make working people poorer aka tax. Make our country safer. Give more to those who genuinely need it aka disabled / legal refuges. And give nothing to those who are playing the game.

Reward those who work, save, save for pensions, pay for their own schools and health care . They appear to be doing to opposite.

There’s nothing they can do.

They’ve proved they fundamentally cannot deal with the welfare state or pensions.

They’ve proved they don’t want to deal with immigration.

If Mahmood is successful in her new policies I will be pleased, but I don’t for a second think they actually want to do it, they’re just scared of Reform. They’ll backtrack on it the moment they think public opinion has relaxed if they can get it past their backbenchers at all.

All they need to do is get the economy growing at a similar level or higher than it was before they came into power, get unemployment back down to the level it was before they came into power, reduce energy prices and make good on their promise to put more money in working people’s pockets.

They’re now announcing a reform-esque asylum policy and it won’t be enough

Another example of them shooting themselves in the foot, why do they keep doing it?! 🤦‍♀️ Reform voters are not going to vote Labour so it’s pointless desperately trying to attract them, and traditional Labour voters are getting pissed off with this sort of nonsense.

What they have actually managed to deliver, rather than announce and then shy away from, has been disastrous economically, and they don’t seem to have the balls to take the necessary action to improve anything.

The overarching issue is the total lack of control of their backbenchers, meaning there’s no cohesion or unity and Starner can’t get any meaningful reforms through. At least the Tories can usually manage to whip their MPs to support the government programme. Labour haven’t a hope in hell of succeeding at anything if they can’t bring the rebel backbenchers to heel. Who thesmselves need to acknowledge hard economic truths, not cling to notions of rainbows and unicorns. We’re all out of funding for those.

Who are the "traditional Labour voters?". The working class and the ex Red Wall are now Reform. Do you mean the metropolitan types and people on benefits?

Spot on. Which is why this government will fail. They are unable politically to do what is needed. For the good of the country they should call an election.

Ok I probably should have said the more to the left Labour voters, and there are still plenty of those. Im struggling to recognise this Government as being the Labour Party.

I don't know. Looks like nobody will be happy, reading up thread. It seems like we have insurmountable problems and everyone sounds very sure about that. I don't feel that sure, to be honest.

All I know is I pay a lot of tax and that's made it hard to get my business off the ground. And I don't get anything for it. The bins are not collected, I can't see the doctor, there are holes in the roads, the trains are broken down, there are no police. So I don't really know what the government does any more, except take half the money I could be using for my startup and give me absolutely nothing back. Everything is shabby and nothing works. Feels like a shakedown these days.

If anything started to look better or work better, I guess I'd think differently. But nothing has improved for so many years it's hard to really imagine. Feels like this country is just done for.

Too many people. That's the main problem. Too many people needing "stuff" like schooling, medical care, housing. And not enough people that are net contributors.

Well, I don't know. I think we are all here and we need to find a way to live together. Let's look forward.

I'm a net contributor myself, but my grandparents were not born in this country. And nobody wanted them here I'm sure! They had a weird religion and too many children and some a dubious immigration status. My mum was not a citizen. But she worked helping troubled children all her life, she worked so hard, with kids who really had nobody. Was that not worth doing? Where should she have gone instead? "Back" to the West Indies where she'd never been until she was 50? For what purpose?

Definitely I agree immigration is out of control. All flavour of governments tell us all the time there's "nothing they can do" about it, which is the definition of out of control. But that's different to people who are here. Just practically, we are here, we're all people and most people want to do well and make a good life. So I wish we could try to do that together.