Anyone else really concerned about asylum seekers killing people, seemingly to get a life term prison sentence?

[potato08]

Just to clarify I'm a lifelong labour voter before I get told I'm a deform bot!
Locally to me an assylum seeker from Ethiopia has just been jailed for 25 years for the murder of a man in a bank in broad daylight (he was angry that his application had been turned down).
Earlier this week an afghan national killed 1 person and injured 3 more...
I follow politics, and geo politics (am a history grad) and so I'm aware that the current immigration levels are nothing to what will come when the Sahel region collapses, but is this going to keep happening?
Why can't they be deported? Why should uk tax payers pay?
I have teen dds, and it makes me scared for them.
I know there's no quick fix after years of tory corruption and inaction, but what could be done within a legal framework?
Would rejoining the EU help stop the boats?

Whilst he was on the run, police said he had 'access to money'......🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔

The Guardian are reporting that since he was wrongly released, 5 other prisoners have been released in error. My assumption is that this is as a result of years of underfunding.

I also found it hard to understand why that twat Farage told survivors of grooming gangs that they were not victims of grooming gangs. FFS.

@potato08 I think you're spiralling and should step away from whatever you're reading and look at something else, something that will give some perspective. Connect with real life.

Are you suggesting that they shouldn't do jail time and just sent home to be free? Many more would come Id imagine if they knew they could murder and rape without any consequences.

What do you mean when the Sahel region collapses?

There's loads on the UN website about the region.

Apparently he threatened to "disrupt" his deportation. Have the authorities not heard of handcuffs and leg restraints? Im surprised a bunch of lefty protesters didnt try to stop his deportation, tbh

Nearly 500 this year apparently

Read prisoners of geography by Tim Marshall

Hardly "spiralling"!
Why is it that women expressing real concern are dismissed in such a way?

I think the problem is that deported people are usually carried on regular scheduled airlines. If they are too disruptive, the the aircrew will refuse to carry them for safety reasons and for the safety of other passengers. It's not like the States where there are dedicated prison planes. We don't have those resources.

Surely it's better for killers to get a long prison sentence as a punishment for the crime, rather than being deported - that's like getting off scot-free.

I know that means the expense of keeping them in prison but that's the least bad option IMO.

It is real life for the families of the people that were killed or should they stop spiralling and connect with real life as well?

Yes it's terrible for the families. Mental health issues are not an excuse. It's true that trouble always travel. Happy people stay in one place. It's simple really, lock then up, make them work, chuck them out back home after smart photography taken so they can be identified easily

I don't understand why he wasn't handcuffed/shackled to prevent him disrupting the flight. Why give him money? He will only use it to try to come back.

No, @Dollymylove, lefties like me don’t want rapists here, any more than we want uk rapists here.

Really?

When was this ?

True it’s patronising and not helpful. Women can talk about crimes that make them feel unsafe.

Yes, really.

We aren’t all the same, any more than you Reform members are exactly the same as Tommy Robinson.

Is there a scheme where the UK government can recoup the cost of imprisoning a citizen of another country that we are having to feed and house because he's committed a crime in this country?

If not there should be. There are schemes to recoup healthcare costs, I can't see why there couldn't be an international scheme to recoup prison costs.

I trust the UK would be net recipients rather than net donors, but who knows.

Because we must think of the men! Don't you know by now that men's rights always trump women's. Incidentally, I believe the Ethiopian in question had fled his home country because he got a local girl pregnant and had been threatened by her family. I strongly suspect a high percentage of illegal immigrants are fleeing their countries because they are wanted ciminals or in trouble for social reasons. Another percentage are economic migrants. This is a disaster for women here and not in the least bit helpful to genuine refugees.

@potato08 your title implies that you think men who are coming into the country via dubious means are actually committing murder in order to get life sentences in prison.

What I got from your title was that you think they do it on purpose so a UK prison will look after them forever or for a long time

If that isn't what you were trying to say, what are you trying to say?

I am extremely worried that we have a lot of men from very problematic backgrounds coming into the country, yes.

I think many of us are worried

What you are saying is a step further than even I would go ... it's possible, I suppose.

ironically, this looks like a very messy effort to make people feel even more angry about the situation than we already do. Peppered with some weird political commentary.