What will life be like under Reform?

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I have accepted the likelihood of the next government being Reform. I don’t think the government after that will necessarily be Reform. But in the 4 Reform years, what do people think life will be like for the different groups in our country? Will we see very immediate changes?

They have majority support amongst the population

They don’t. Far more people don’t want them at any price. 2029 will see tactical voting on steroids to keep them out.

Based on current polling of voting intentions, Electoral calculus has Reform winning 313 seats on a popular vote of 29 %.

That's not far off the 33.7% popular vote Labour got in the last election, although our FPTP system gave them 411 seats - a 'landslide'.

It's not quite the 326 seats needed for an outright majority. But far more than all the Left parties put together (236 seats).

There undoubtedly will be tactical voting, as always. Possibly also some anti-democratic shenanigans from Labour as well - given the contempt they're currently showing for democracy by cancelling elections.

There will also be tactical voting against Labour, who have succeeded in pissing off almost everyone. I very much hope there will also be tactical voting against a coalition of the Left - since that would give influence to the utterly insane Greens, who are far more of a threat than Reform.

Personally, I'm hoping Badenoch will succeed in bringing the Conservatives back by then instead. You are obviously hoping the same of Labour. We have our own opinions on which (if either) is more likely.

You are obviously hoping the same of Labour.

It’s not obvious at all. It’s not even true. My disillusionment with Labour is oft repeated. If I voted with my heart in 2029 it would be Green, as it is it’ll probably be holding my nose and voting Tory as the only way of ensuring a Reform candidate doesn’t win.

There undoubtedly will be tactical voting, as always. Possibly also some anti-democratic shenanigans from Labour as well - given the contempt they're currently showing for democracy by cancelling elections.

What elections have they cancelled?

The conservatives won’t get in 2029, if they did I’d be shocked . It’ll take atleast the GE after that for them to have any chance of winning.
The public got fed up with Labour, it took them 14 years to get back into government.

But I don’t see why I would vote the Conservative Party back in . They broke any pledge they made.
They shut prisons and tried to privatise many more. They failed when they privatised the probation service.
I don’t believe a word they say anymore.

This is Reform's candidate for the postponed (not cancelled) Hampshire and the Solent Mayoral elections

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2025/dec/19/reform-candidate-lammy-go-home-questioned-mps-loyalty-uk-chris-parry

NHS will be gone. Inflation will go through the roof. Public services won’t be funded to the same extent so expect worse education, less police, less spending on stuff like council services.

whether or not they manage to lower illegal immigration is anyone’s guess.

Farage will sell off nhs and other contracts to whoever promises him shares/board memberships etc after he leaves politics. He’s in this to make money for himself and his mates.

I have read the Guardian article and Lammy's view that we should give reparations for slavery is not in the UK's best interests.
In the 17th Century when slavery was used, most white people in the UK were like slaves too. "Despite the legal differences, life for the rural poor was undeniably harsh and involved significant hardship, which some contemporary commentators described as a "kind of slavery" in a non-legal sense."

I also don't understand why a British MP would celebrate Pakistan's independence when Britain should be their primary concern.

I think it should be part of a debate to question these things.
I am not white myself and I am a British born child of immigrants.
I am obviously concerned if Reform is truly racist (and I think some individuals are) but I also don't want to stifle debate. Wanting to control immigration and expecting our MPs to put British interests first is not racist.

Does that mean you agree with Chris Parry's comments?

Out of the frying pan, into the fire, then into the ash pan ? Gosh, the British electorate must be the dimmest in Europe ?!

Yes i find some of Labours policies baffling, i dont understand the rational for the 2 child cap thing but then saying no money to fix dentistry, which would prove popular and also benefit the very children they say they want to help... so what if a parent gets a few quid extra if they've rotten teeth?

Our council has been given millions ( a share of around 7 billion) to fix the roads but no changes to make sure repairs are done well, its pointless.

13000 patients, medically fit to be discharged but are stuck in hospitals, Labour have done nothing about Social Care, just an inquiry.. woo wee!

Give a pay rise and have a long term plan to get carers back under A4C pay rates.

Hell will freeze over before i vote Tory.

What kind of ridiculous gas-lighting comment is this?

PP says that she disagrees with reparations and gives a perfectly sound - not racist - reason why, and you accuse her of being a racist?!

Let's repeat the pp's last comment, for those who aren't listening

"Wanting to control immigration and expecting our MPs to put British interests first is not racist."

My addition: it's not only "not racist", it's a government's basic responsibility. Their job is not to solve the world's problems at our expense Their job is to manage the UK on our behalf, for us.

Flinging around powerful words won't prevent people from discussing perfectly reasonable political questions any more. You've cried wolf way too many times, following a globalist agenda (ie against the UK's interests) with no regard for what everyone else wants - and the words have completely lost their power.

You are ok then with a mayoral candidate making those comments?

Not just about Lammy, he has quite a collection of politicians he likes to 'go home'

Labour's policies never work because their understanding of economics and human behaviour are both fundamentally wrong. They always trash the economy, so it always takes them a long time to get back into power.

The Conservatives get some things wrong - and have the occasional utterly shite leader- but because their policies are rooted in reality, when they do have a good leader they can really take the country forward.

Kemi Badenoch is really good. Watch her in the HoC. Read what she's saying. She has good ideas - she actually thinks things through carefully and thoroughly - and I think she's got what it takes to put them into practice.

Did you hear her response to the Violence against women and girls bill? Pure twaddle.

I don't support Reform.

I see Lammy as British. I think Lammy is a shit politician and I hate a lot of what he says I'm very strongly against reparations.

I think it's OK and appropriate to hold MPs to account if they are not following UK interests - whether that's due to their own national origin, the origin of their voters, or their political views.

I think it's OK for a candidate to say anything legal, however distasteful. I find our current move towards punishing thought-crime dangerous.

I'm not racist, and you will never make me doubt that for a second - so I feel no compunction at all saying those things.

If you think that what Chris Parry said about Lammy is acceptable then you are condoning racism. Condoning racism makes a person complicit. If you don't oppose it and speak out, you are tacitly in agreement.

I think even the nutjobs in the greens would be better than this labour government! In my life I have never seen such a shambles we have now. I cannot wait for a Reform government they are our only hope of saving this country

Telling someone to go home is not holding them to account.

Funny how he doesn't tell white politicians the same.

You seem fine with Parry's racist comments.

Under Sunak, long after Covid, we had many quarters on 0% or negative growth, we had a recession in Q3 and Q4 of 2023, hence a mild rebound just before the GE.

Labour gave us stunning growth in the 2000s.

The Tories gave us Austerity - needed after the GFC (for many years longer than any other country, which helped wreck our recovery) and years of low productivity and low to zero growth, then not content with that... Brexit... an idea strongly supported by our enemies...

Then there was Bojo, Liz Truss and arguably Sunak, a guy who has no regrets at letting go of £11bn in Covid loan fraud and lost the UK £29bn in a scrapped railway.... amazing economics.

Their policies are rooted in self interest only - eg Hunts unaffordable and unfunded NI cuts, done to hamper Labour.

Totally agree, Reform will close or cut services and only then will people realise how important these services are.

Things like Adult Education Centres will go, less places at college for under 18s..... don't expect special provision for children who need a school bus, special educational needs etc.

I recently heard Nigel Farage talking about Jaguar Land Rover and how he would have let them go bust.....but what about the thousands who work directly and indirectly....what about the jobs.

There's too much negativity around this Labour government, and I suspect that Trump has a lot to do with that. Ed Davey thinks so too.

No. Accepting that people say things you disagree with is not being complicit in racism.

It muat be acceptable to question whether a cabinet minister has mixed loyalties when he is acting against the UK's interests.

It was rudely and crudely done. It would cross a line if done out of context, but it was done in the context of Lammy advocating for 'reparatory justice' to Caribbean countries. It would be hard to argue that his political opinion isn't influenced by his heritage, and I don't think he has denied that.

committees.parliament.uk/oralevidence/15045/html/

Mixed loyalties

Reform is very happy with foreign interference from the likes of Musk, Trump and the Heritage Foundation.

As is Badenoch