What will life be like under Reform?

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I have accepted the likelihood of the next government being Reform. I don’t think the government after that will necessarily be Reform. But in the 4 Reform years, what do people think life will be like for the different groups in our country? Will we see very immediate changes?

It will be chaos if the councils are anything to go by. It's true everyone has to learn at one point how local/regional/national governments work and the legal responsibilities/restrictions are, but when it's a large number of completely new people it's chaos.

Our 22 year old son has just bought his first home, NW England. We’ve helped out with deposit but he’s been working and saving for years, through sixth form and university. It is certainly doable in some places.
What youngsters in London, Bristol, Edinburgh, etc. are supposed to do, I have no idea.

The propaganda unleashed against Reform reminds me of the scare tactics against Brexit and Corbyn.

Well, given that "Project Fear" turned out to be pretty accurate, perhaps you ought to start paying attention.

It's worth adding that some of us are already living under Reform at a local authority level. It's total chaos here.

I'm sorry you're easily manipulated, but I'm tired of seing every threat to the establishment rot being treated as the end of the world.

We were, Lancashire. They’ve ballsed it up after just a few months. Moved away now, thank goodness!

How anyone can seriously believe these clowns can run a country is beyond me. I’ve been scathing about Conservative and Labour governments over the years but boy, if this lot get in, hold onto your hats.

Lol at me being the one who is easily manipulated!!😂I'm not the one dancing to the tune of the Russian bots!

FWIW, I have no issue with the establishment being challenged, I just don't favour the idea of replacing them with a bunch of incompetent self-serving racists. But if that's what your heart yearns for, then you will of course have your opportunity to cast your vote.

And if you manage to vote them in, I shall leave you to stew in your very own self-made cesspit because you will deserve everything that is coming to you.

Is there any part of the UK where Reform have been elected which isn't in a state of chaos, I wonder?

TBH the 'press are very generous towards Reform and Farage.

He said he'd cut taxes, now thats an aspiration, he said he'd stop the boats on day 1, now thats when he changes the law.....

He said he wanted rid of the NHS and replace it with an insurance based model... now its not that, its no extra ins payments and utilising the private sector, pretty much what Streeting is doing.

He said in 2020, wearing a mask was a price worth paying to limit Covid infections... now he says he never wore a mask and never would....

Farage makes it up as he goes along & he is the establishment, anyone can see that, just like Trump is or Boris is.

Dickensian

The civil service will sabotage them, and try to stop them enacting what they've been voted in to do. This is probably the biggest risk - that we'll end up with a non-functioning government for 5 years due to the Left's unwillingness to accept democracy.

I think thats called "Getting your excuses in early" 😂

They could be so much worse you can't even imagine it. You'll really have reason to look back with nostalgia if Farage leads the country. There'll be desperate poverty, repression and bitter, inward-looking decay of everything you've ever valued.
And forget healthcare completely.

I don't support Reform. However I can see that the situation I describe will happen and it will be entirely destructive to the UK. You're absolutely right that we've seen nothing yet - and it's not Reform's political policies we should be afraid of. What do you think will happen when it is demonstrated that there is no democratic way to bring about change? That voting doesn't work?

But voting does work, what doesn't work is vested interests by Govt's and a total lack of concern.

Reform will be no different.

For example - Dentistry, fixing this would make a huge difference to peoples lives, Civil Servants aren't preventing Streeting from renegotiating the Dental Contract but they don't.

Its not even the lack of money, 3 billion found for the 2 child benefit cap, so give some families a little more cash but their kids will still end up in AE having tooth extractions.

Listened to Labour Mayor Tracy Brabin tying herself in knots over a Tram line, thats all about process, process that a Govt can change but refuses too.

Despite what you might think, i have almost no time for this Labour Govt, its just that i saw what the Tories did over 14 years and it really was a disaster, the UK went backwards in every respect.

I will just give them more time to prove me wrong, they ve that time anyway, the next GE is at least 3 years away.

Interesting analysis. Obviously it will be rubbished.

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2025/dec/19/2025-reform-uk-nigel-farage

So why do you think Labour haven't made those changes which would improve people's lives?

Like you say, it's not money: the tax burden is the highest it's been since 1948 following the war, and public sector borrowing is the highest ever recorded apart from 2020 when the Treasury paid the wages of millions of people furloughed during the pandemic.

And why are they instead implementing policies which weren't in their manifesto, such as ID cards, removing the right to jury trial in most situations and removing the 2-child benefit cap - all of which are opposed by the majority of the population?

How can you say that voting works when political parties do whatever they want regardless of what they said they would/wouldn't do - and completely ignore what the demos has consistently said they want?

It's not only Labour. The majority of the UK have consistently said they want less immigration for at least the last 30 years. David Cameron did at least try to follow the will of the demos (I voted Remain - so it wasn't what I wanted - but at least it was what the population voted for). All other politicians and institutions have subverted that in every way they could.

Reform are now campaigning on a very clear platform. Like I said, I don't support them as a party but it is undeniable that their platform has overwhelming popular support.

Let's see whether they are allowed to implement it.

Most of the people in government and our institutions are globalists. They're not on your side, any more than the USSR government was on the side of the Ukrainian people when they implemented the Holodomor. (Ukraine was part of the USSR at that time, and there were elections although candidates were limited)

Let's see whether they are allowed to implement it.

They are in Kent, so have a look at how well their flagship council is perfoming

Their platform is about government change, not local councils.

Like I said, I don't support them - they are too populist for me.

But their platform is in very clear opposition to the globalist political view which is dominant in government, civil service and institutions. They have majority support amongst the population. This is a test of democracy: whether they are supported in governing according to that democratically chosen platform.

Yeah you're right. Its worrying.
There have been some studies recently which show that younger adults in the UK and the US feel like democracy is not working. They were more likely to favour a more authoritarian regime than what we currently have due to perceived failures of the current system. They studied gen z iirc.
This may partly explain the rise of Reform.

I said "why" .... Vested interests and lack of concern, the lobbying industry is very very strong.

On money/taxes, the demands on the budget are huge, the NI cuts is costing the Govt 11bn per year and rising, PO and Blood scandals - thats another 20billion.

Defence - 60bn over the next few years

ID cards aren't even a thing, its an idea the Govt leaked, that got a v poor reception.... weird as it would help control the Black Economy.

What do you mean Globalists? Do you mean we should make our own phones and not buy white goods made in Germany??

Should we go back to the 60s, when Spag-bol was the height of adventurous cooking?

How did Cameron stem immigration? Brexit is an utterly stupid and economically damaging policy, thats why politicians baulk against it, it simply cannot work.

Reform have "overwhelming popular support" ??? have you seen the Voting Intention polls?
They are on between 26%. & 30%.... thats all, its pathetic, over 70% reject their hotchpotch of ideas, which are far from clear.

"Allowed to implement it" They wont because its all unworkable, Economically, its Truss on steroids and on immigration - hot air, France wont take back migrants and many countries refuse to accept asylum seekers - then there is the lack of military bases - most sold for development.

They have to start somewhere.

Leading a council is a good indication of how they will implement their policies.

Should also be noted that when Govt ministers want to introduce/enact policies, they can, look at Brexit, Covid and Liz Truss.

Why they don't in more normal times seems to be a lack of 'will and quite frankly, it doesn't affect them, a poor NHS and no Dental treatment wont bother people who have access to the very best private and public treatments via queue jumping.

The White House is pushing Sir Keir Starmer to make concessions on food standards in order to revive a transatlantic tech partnership. If we had Reform they would be rolling right over on this one!!! 🤮

www.telegraph.co.uk/us/news/2025/12/17/trump-demands-british-supermarkets-chlorinated-chicken/