What will life be like under Reform?

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I have accepted the likelihood of the next government being Reform. I don’t think the government after that will necessarily be Reform. But in the 4 Reform years, what do people think life will be like for the different groups in our country? Will we see very immediate changes?

Except the decline will be much faster and much steeper.

Well if would be different but then is that not what the country is needing.

I mean the tories have vanished it seems, labour is increasing out debt each month until we go bang so who is left?

Yes I think benefits will be slashed but given we can't afford our benefits bill that would make sense. Yes it's nice to help the vunerable etc but if you can't afford it, you can't afford it.

NHS is already being phased out so quite frankly a properly run private service where you could get the treatment you need quickly might not be the worst thing. It would also stop all these missed appointments and going to A&E with silly things.

Hopefully they will get rid of all these stupid new ideas and go back to men are men and women are women, the end.

More law enforcement can surely only be a good thing given that people are freely shoplifting with no punishment.

Lots of threads on here complaining about how everyone is so rude and entitled these days. So lots of people unhappy with things currently and we are on a knife edge financially with the budget awaited with baited breath.

Whether we like it or not we need someone who isn't afraid to make hard decisions. Huge cuts in benefits are needed. Who else is going to do that?
KS new right hand man is already highlighting this in todays telegraph. It's like we all know it already but god forbid someone actually take control and be in charge.

Racism probably will get worse. Hard to say. Illegals will hopefully get shipped back asap with no pandering to them.

We can't go on as we are that's for sure. Reform are certainly not a perfect solution but they will change things. It will be brutal for some but for anyone following the state of the country knows we need brutal change so who knows.

I for one am sick of lack of law and order, overcrowding and benefit scroungers. So I can understand people feeling backed into a corner and voting for them.

No doubt I will get slated for my post and that is fine if people disagree. Given they are leading in the polls though many people must be sharing my views.

If you don't want a Reform government, find a party that most closely aligns with your general political views, join it and get involved. You will not find a party that you 100% agree with on everything, so choose the one that is closest. Become an activist and help keep them out.

The more folk mock reform the more determined people will be vote for them. I dont think they could be worse than that idiot Liz Truss.

Judging by what's happening in our local authority, it will be utter chaos.

@Mandarinaduck , The system of Government is so vey different here. There is no equivalent of the to Trumps Executive Orders. We have the House of Lords. That will slow everything down!!!!
Our PM is not CinC of military.. We need to see HOW before we panic.

They are talking to the media in our reform-led LA (and recruiting more to the comms team). Not necessarily a good thing 😅

Although I hope you are right and cling on to this logic when I look at what Trump is doing i fear the worst

Blood sports will probably be legalised.

This. If they get in and that’s a big if.

Time for the youngsters to get off their arses and actually vote in the next election if they don’t want reform in.

You might not think they could be worse. That doesn't necessarily mean that you are right.

Also, the Tory party removed Truss after just a few weeks, so the damage that she could do was limited. If Reform have a majority in parliament, who do you think will remove them?

Misogyny.

I think its more terrifying than the OP suggests. Our economy massively relies on immigration, so many industries will suffer if there are mass deportations. Even if you dont care about what it will do to families you should care if you need the NHS or private health care as we already have lots of staff shortages or if you are not rich.

Their policies apart from immigration are all.about making the rich really rich ln the backs of the poor. Which is frightening for most of us.

actually surely if nigel is a millionaire city trader, it means he has a good head for business. Does that not actually make him more credible as someone who could get the country back into being financially sustainable?

Sadly they will be worse. Their main aim is to make very rich people richer.

It's a very different skill set to be able to be good at macroeconomics than good at playing the markets with other people's money.

Why have you “accepted” it? There is plenty of time to go yet and so many opportunities to derail these terrible, ignorant and nasty people.

Does our economy rely on immigration? I mean back in the nineties house prices were much more affordable so people could afford to have children.

This was before all the huge immigration.

Surely another way to grow our population is by making it affordable to have more babies. Why do we have to keep bringing people into the country. Wouldn't our own younger population do the same thing?

the trouble is there are no alternatives to nigel? If people don't vote for him then who are we voting for? The huge increase in our debt in the last year plus failing services, lack of law and order is screaming that hard changes are needed.

No

Making money gambling on stock markets doesn’t mean you know how to run a business. Look at VCs who buy a business, tear it up and sell off its parts and make a bloody fortune. There is still no business left at the end of it. The only people who benefit are the rich investors. The poor redundant employees, customers, supply chains etc are the ones who suffer for it.

That is what Reform are planning to do to this country. Cameron and Osborne started it. They flogged off almost everything we owned as a country. How much richer is the average Joe now?

I don't agree with blood sports and I hate all cruelty to animals but what is the alternative to Nigel.

I mean the reason people are thinking of voting for him is there is nobody else and people are sick fed up.

Utterly horrendous. A sycophantic mirror image of Trump’s America.
Is that really who we want to be?

They’ve exacerbated and magnified what were once small problems and created new ones in order to position themselves as the only people to fix them. Divide and conquer to enrich themselves and their backers. Exactly the blueprint they used for Brexit.

They’ll dismantle our rights and our nhs and likely make it a very unpleasant place to live.

We vote for them at our peril.

Where would they go?

And name one thing Reform had costed and planned to do.
Laws and order will worsen. Racists will be emboldened and more violence will ensue.
People will be poorerwhich will increase disharmony.