What will life be like under Reform?

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I have accepted the likelihood of the next government being Reform. I don’t think the government after that will necessarily be Reform. But in the 4 Reform years, what do people think life will be like for the different groups in our country? Will we see very immediate changes?

I am guessing it will prove demonstrably better for many of us, versus this wretched Labour government.

But Reform should be allowed 14 years + Labour’s tenure to sort things out.
Right?

You do realise that all news is biased don't you, yes, even the BBC? And you had the time to write a long reply, but without the time to even watch the source material?

These are the reasons why it's important to read and watch a variety of sources.

But hey, you can lead a horse to water and all that, and I guess some people prefer just living in their little bubble because it's nice and cosy for them without having their world view challenged in any way.

I read the Fabian article Starmer wrote, he has fallen a very very long way from those ideals.

No i wont waste time looking at a biased video on a subject that will never ever happen..... the internet is full of cranks and conspiracists.

If i suggested you watch a video on the positives of Agenda 2023, would you? with an open mind to be changed? no, so don't say you would.

Though it never takes too long before the insults come out.

4 sentences isn't along reply.

Errr okay then, except Agenda 2030 is happening, our government have signed us up to it - we are legally bound to implement it, and without us ever getting a vote on it.

Still, if you haven't even watched the video (and as you refuse to educate yourself = ignorant) then I don't really care what you think, and nor should anyone else care what you think.

Same as always with you lefties. Embrace ideology, ignore the inconvenient reality.

Do tell, how will many of us be demonstrably better off?

Quote from gov.uk website
"A total of 6,787 people who arrived on a small boat between 2018 and the year ending September 2025 have been returned from the UK, representing 4% of the total number of small boat arrivals over the same period."

The idea that asylum is granted or people are "sent back" is fantasy. A good chunk of claims are not granted. The people are not sent back.

https://www.gov.uk/government/statistics/immigration-system-statistics-year-ending-september-2025/how-many-people-are-returned-from-the-uk

No NHS

Another Labour shill? Have you even read the Reform manifesto? NHS is on Page 9 if you care to take a look:

https://assets.nationbuilder.com/reformuk/pages/253/attachments/original/1718625371/Reform_UK_Our_Contract_with_You.pdf?1718625371

Are you a Reform shill?

If the UK has signed up to a legally binding treaty, implemented by 2030, what on earth is Reform going to do about it?

Oh and your so called unbiased factual Agenda 2030 video, is in fact the views of Bev Turner (as you said) famous for believing the Covid vaccine doesn't work, that Starmer was complicit in Saville not being charged, that climate change isn't happening, that Australia operated covid lock down similar to apartheid, that Russel Brand never raped anyone.
But most weirdly of all, thinks the CV vaccine was engineered to not be so affective for Jewish peoples.....

So no, i wont listen to a lunatic.

I did read this though.......

Where will he get the money from? what about staff who have already paid '000s in student loans, with they get a refund?

Renegotiate legally binding PFI contracts? See you court!

The ones that could be changed, already have been.

Where does the Private sector get staff from? if he wants more Private provision or should people who pay premiums go to the back of the queue? & where does that 20% tax relief come from?

Private sector Voucher scheme? see above comment.

AE ? Pharmacies and GPs don't operate 24/7, so then what??? Brexit has led to many EU Pharmacists leaving the UK.

Vaccine deaths? sounds like a vaccine sceptic policy, which will lead to huge numbers rejecting Measle vaccines.... well done!

His plans would very quickly lead to the wholesale privatisation of the NHS, the US model, with Insurance replacing Free at the point of use.

Farage clearly has no love of the NHS and wants it gone.

Bev Turner sounds like a completely legitimate source about absolutely everything. </sarcasm>

@LoyalHedgehog we might be more interested in videos that didn't come from a conspiracy spouting COVID antivaxxer loon.

How long would a Reform government be permitted? (For them to prove themselves).

Think carefully, now.

When people run with argument, ‘Labour and the Tories have been awful, let’s try something new’ they seem to be totally ignoring all of the Tory defectors to Reform - both politicians and donors - , with the leftovers from UKIP. It’s the very worst dregs of the former Tories too…Anderson, Jenkyns, Pochin, Gullis. This isn’t new talent with fresh ideas.

I’m not right-wing, and I can disagree with many traditional Tory politicians, but I can also respect many of them as being competent and committed, even if I don’t share their political opinions, but Reform are very different (no matter how hard Yusuf tries to spin it or how many millions their donors give them).

I am fed up of trying to be diplomatic about it, but the same people who voted for Brexit and then Johnson will now vote Reform regardless. And the grifter charlatan Farage will be laughing all the way to the bank - a man so keen on democracy that he wasn’t even elected as party leader.

The more time goes on, the more will be revealed about who and what Reform truly are - Nathan Gill will not be a lone Reform politician taking bribes from Russia, for example. We see the reports on who and what Farage has always been. We know they continued to support one of their MPs who failed to disclose his criminal conviction for viciously attacking a woman. The question is, will it matter to Reform supporters?

I was asking you what fantastic policies Reform have that will benefit many of us.
@Prometheus78

Think about it and let us know

How long did you give Labour?

I’ve just had a read. How do Reform plan to fund this? I’d also be fascinated to know more about how they plan to recruit more doctors and nurses to end staff shortages. Please enlighten us.

I'm in Staffs. No noticeable changes but our council leader has just been kicked out of Reform for being a racist bigot. Erm....kind of comes with the territory? 😑

Basically, if you think the Country is in bad shape now, you have seen nothing yet. Part of the reason our economy is in such a state is the disastrous effect of leaving the customs union and single market, this wiped Billions off our economy and was championed by Farage and his ilk as he lied about Billions going to NHS, whilst waving about his fake blue passport.

Yes, Covid absolutely hammered economy as well , but we had double whammy of Brexit and Covid. Also, he has often indicated in past the NHS will not exist under his rule, just wait until you have to pay a fortune for health care insurance or getting your prescription medications.

If you want an idea of what will happen just look at USA right now which has plunged into chaos under Trump and Cost of living soaring whilst he takes Putin's side over Europe and Ukraine.

It will be an unmitigated disaster just as Brexit has been, and I say that as someone who has no time for current Tories or Labour.

I voted to remain because exiting wasn’t worth it. Now I would vote to stay out because rejoining will be too costly.

Being in or out of the EU just isn’t that consequential. It is far more important that we sort out our energy problems (generation and grid infrastructure), fix our regulatory framework, reform our tax code, and decide who we want to be.

The EU hokey-cokey is a costly distraction that we can ill afford.

For those who think we would be 8% better off if we stayed in the EU. Really? That would make us the best performing country in the EU. Far outperforming other large EU countries. Pull the other one!

Even a committed Brexiteer like Ryan Bourne who was part of the small "Economists for Brexit" group and argued vigorously pre referendum that leaving the EU would unlock long term economic potential through policy freedom has recently conceded that Brexit's negative impacts are now undeniable and substantial.

Bourne references research estimating exactly a 6-8% GDP per capita shortfall! The idea that being in or out of the EU "just isn’t that consequential” doesn’t align with the reality. Ths UK GDP per person is "6 to 8 per cent lower today than if we had remained," with business investment down 15%, and employment and productivity each reduced by 3 to 4%.

If even one of the referendum's most optimistic economic advocates now says the costs are this significant and deepened our malaise, it's hard to sustain that EU membership is a minor sideshow or that rejoining would necessarily be "too costly" without weighing the ongoing price of staying out.

I mean we had Tories for over a decade so it will be like a divisive Tory government really.

My main worry is how much it will embolden people on the streets to be incredibly racist.

We are heading toward being poorer regardless of who's in power, Labour, Reform, Conservative, all much the same, unless we did something quite radical.

Hopefully the coast guard will be enabled to do their job and prevent illegal channel crossings, so employers will be forced to provide private healthcare and slash management headcount from NHS, make lobbying and demonstrations in favour of foreign governments and entities illegal, slash personal income tax rates and increase corporate rates, build rail, power plants and houses everywhere.

What do you mean regarding the coast guard?

Uphold their mandate of ensuring maritime security, which obviously is endangered by illegal crossings

How?