Charlie Kirk's beliefs

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If You're Wondering What Charlie Kirk Believed In, Here Are 14 Real Quotes
In light of his death, Charlie Kirk's legacy is being remembered through these viral quotes.
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https://www.buzzfeed.com/alexalisitza/viral-charlie-kirk-quotes

Wow. That comment tells posters here everything they need to know about your supposed “morality”. You’re actually defending child abuse of a raped minor who is ten years old by her being forced to go through pregnancy of the baby of her paedophile rapist to term and have to give birth to it. Think for a second what that would mean for that little girl - already the traumatised victim of child rape - and her tiny body, having to be heavily pregnant and terrified and go through the pain of birth (and hugely increased medical risks to her that come with such a small child who is NOT AN ADULT WOMAN going through that process) and the ridicule and bullying by other children as well that would also occur, and then by force becoming a mother aged TEN to the baby of her rapist. You are referring to her as a “woman” and saying that the collection of cells should be given more concern than the actual child who has already been traumatised and abused and accusing her of “murdering a baby” if she doesn’t want to have the paedophile rapist’s child and advocating to inflict MORE abuse on her.

I don’t know how people can live with themselves when advocating such undeniable child abuse. It’s disgusting.

They really do, people are leaving the US Democrat party in droves because of the attitudes displayed by you an others.

Your hate and continued lies just make it worse.

You'll see.

He was a misogynistic, racist, bigot. How sad you view this as aspirational.

Thoughts and prayers to you.

More whataboutery. That doesn’t justify the comment of “blacks prowling the streets”. Nor does it explain why Mr Kirk was entirely unconcerned about the fact that MEN commit 98% of murders. Why did he choose race as the issue to focus on and not talk about “men prowling the streets”, given that there is a far higher correlation between violent crime and men than there is between violent crime and race? How strange.

I'm just getting frustrated by the types of people celebrating his murder because they claim not to like his views and their absolute inability for self - reflection and to realise they are amongst the bad-people they claim deserve violence. It's utterly dispicable. They're clearly only young. But very dangerous nonetheless.

Im not sure I fully understand your stance on abortion however, and why you are pro choice, yet decry the recent changes in abortion law up to birth. Why shouldn't choice trump then? My stance isn't necessarily religious but is sound as far as science is concerned. We know your life and everyone elses begins at conception. Whether you are inside or outside the womb is immaterial. What makes it bad that abortion is being allowed up until birth? Why is human life more valuable at that point than say, 2 months before birth? What I'm trying to say is at what point does human life become valuable? The pro choice side seem to almost overvalue life once it's born. What about when a baby is born before the nurse is able to get it to open it's eyes and before it's first breath? Should it be illegal to slaughter it there and then if the mother were to suddenly decide she didn't want it? These are important specific questions I don't know how the pro choice people manage to answer cohesively. Either human life has value or it doesn't. It's as simple as that.

There seems to be in influx of far right men posting from the US over the last week or so, posting extreme views and personal attacks on threads such as this. We see you.

You miss someone you’ve never met?

Please explain how you think I have been “exposed”?

Bizarre.

@Alicealig You don’t seem to care about basic human rights, let alone women’s rights, considering you think it’s perfectly moral and okay to force a 10 year old child to give birth to a rapists baby. Do you have any idea of the physical and mental trauma this would cause? Women have fought for such a long time to have rights and autonomy over their bodies.

Shame on you.

Sorry I missed this delight of a reply earlier. Not sure what you're trying to prove with the timeline there. I said i hadnt seen a particular video yet, and that seeing every one that had been referenced would take a long time - it would.

Yet in the 24 hours since that last quoted post you’ve had time to make a further 19 posts on this thread yet allegedly still “not had time to look into it”. How very convenient.

I have watched it. As it had been mentioned several times by you and your fellow witch hunters, I sought it out last night, watched it and gave my thoughts somewhere around 8:30 last night. Don't worry, no apology necessary.

At this stage, given the levels of lies and hate, real hate - I wonder if those portraying that hate have been affected by dark forces.

Absolutely. They probably think they can target Mumsnet because most posters here are just intellectually inferior women, after all, so should be easily influenced by incoherent nonsense posted by far superior men, hence their anger when intelligent women have made moderate, calm and well-reasoned arguments to which they have no rational response to offer and tiresome attempts to disparage individual posters with facile and transparent ad hominem attacks instead.

To use a more US centric phraseology: lame.

You're aware that this is a hypothetical situation and hasn't actually happened under Charlie Kirk's direction........

I see. So we know there is a fundamental difference between us when it comes to sex in that males are very different to females and that men are inherently more aggressive and therefore commit more violence.

Are you actually saying there is an inherent difference between black and white people and that blacks are just more criminal than whites by nature so we just accept that, as it sounds like that's the comparison you're making. We weren't even talking about percentages of men we were talking about race..... Yes?

And men committing a high percent of murders is normal statistics that are repeatable the world over. That's not specific to the US. Black crime proportionality is.

Begot by the lack of Black fathers, Charlie used to talk about this and the need for black young men to have their fathers in their lives.

I can't commment on the motives of far right American men, but as a British lefty man, I can say I come onto MN to listen to what the high concentration of fiercely intelligent courageous women on the FWR board have to say.

"As we are mostly women on here I have to assume it's our uncontrollable hormone levels that cause such irrational emotion based responses as it gives me no confidence that we have any business at all claiming to hold any positions of power anywhere any more. What a catastrophe this would be. I hope men from far and wide are able to see what wretched people women on here can be and hopefully they'll think twice about letting women have any more power than they've been given up to now."

What drivel.

Everything is just anger when it comes to the left. They assume everything is combattive and are unaware that someone like Charlie came from a good place. Social media has replaced these leftists ability to read human body language, they're totally inept when interpreting human interactions as they're always texting and behind a screen. It's no wonder they struggle with relationships and mental health.

This is what he promoted, and wanted to happen. Forced pregnancies, including for children and rape victims. Even his own daughter. Women are to have to rights or body autonomy, according to Kirk.

Those of us who are feminists and care about women’s rights, and the rights of marginalised groups, are witches according to you. When actually we’ve made many rationale, logical and coherent arguments now for many people’s should you wish to actually engage and read them.

But you won’t, as you are intransigent with your extreme views. The only thing you can offer is hyperbole and personal insults. It’s water off a ducks back 🦆

I'm repeating myself but with some of the things I've seen from left since the murder of Charlie Kirk, well, the world "satanic" keeps entering my thoughts.

It's such a shame that we've lost a generation of young people to hate and I hope that those responsible get judged for it one day.

Did it happen? Did he promote it or did he just say that's what he'd do?

Charlie held the sanctify of life dear, you seem to hate it.

Charlie may have acted very differently if in fact his daughter had to suffer that.

You're so full of hate on just an idea, it's shocking to read.

I’m happily married and I am a psychologist, thanks for enquiring into my wellbeing 😄

I think what would vastly help your well being, as well as your critical thinking and debating skills, would be to stop creating binaries and labelling people into ‘left’ and ‘right’ and relying on lazy stereotypes to create a cheap argument. Also to have the self awareness to recognise that you don’t know what anyone else thinks. All you are doing by using these lazy narratives is creating more division and polarisation.

You can engage with a debate without having to attempt to label and pigeon hole everything and everyone. Nuance is important. Something tells me it’ll be a hot day in hell before you can provide a reasonable, cohesive argument though that isn’t based on underhand tactics and more stereotyping and mind reading.

Sorry, I meant to say misogynistic drivel.

You are obsessed with projecting the hate you so clearly feel, onto me.

These are the abhorrent things Kirk stood for, which you endorse. Thoughts and prayers to you!