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MsAmerica · 2025-09-15T01:29:13+00:00

*If You're Wondering What Charlie Kirk Believed In, Here Are 14 Real Quotes* *In light of his death, Charlie Kirk's legacy is being remembered through these viral quotes.* BuzzFeed [[https://www.buzzfeed.com/alexalisitza/viral-charlie-kirk-quotes https://www.buzzfeed.com/alexalisitza/viral-charlie-kirk-quotes]]

TheClaaaw · 19/09/2025 11:31

TheClaaaw · 19/09/2025 11:26

Again, please provide evidence showing the pilots with black skin did not have to meet the same objective tests in terms of qualifications and experience before they were allowed to fly passenger jets, which would justify such a position. Or data from safety records showing that skin colour is a relevant factor increasing the risk of plane crashes or unsafe flying practices.

In the absence of this data, his comment is exposed for the pure racism it was.

He did not state that it was unfair that black pilots might receive contextual offers to enter pilot training schemes more often than white pilots because black people in the US are still generally poorer and go to poorer schools on average. Where’s the data that the pilots who received such contextual offers were less capable or less safe or held to lower safety standards when awarded their qualifications?

He stated explicitly that he would be worried about the safety of flying on a plane if he saw that the pilot was black so presumably, if he’s not a racist, there is evidence to support his assertion clearly showing that black pilots are more of a risk to safety than white ones and his alleged fear of a black pilot flying a plane on which he was a passenger was justified by objective data rather than him simply hating black people?

Where’s the data that support his assertion that black pilots are less safe and therefore shows that this wasn’t a racist comment?

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How they entered the pilot training schemes is totally irrelevant to their safety records as qualified pilots: the flying qualifications and safety regulations etc. are applied uniformly and anybody not meeting the mark will be removed and fired. So no pilot will ever be allowed to fly a passenger jet based on a different standard of safety record and experience based on their skin colour. These are objective standards applied uniformly to all trainees and that has always been the case.

Therefore, the conjecture of Mr Kirk that a black pilot is more dangerous or likely to crash than a white pilot is quite obviously racist.

Unless, of course, you’re able to provide some evidence showing that black pilots are NOT held to the same objective tests to get their licences, or the same levels of flight experience, or have worse safety records. Mr Kirk provided no such evidence. But since you’re defending his position presumably you can.

Again, we’re all waiting to see it.

Underthinker · 19/09/2025 11:32

TheClaaaw · 19/09/2025 11:26

Again, please provide evidence showing the pilots with black skin did not have to meet the same objective tests in terms of qualifications and experience before they were allowed to fly passenger jets, which would justify such a position. Or data from safety records showing that skin colour is a relevant factor increasing the risk of plane crashes or unsafe flying practices.

In the absence of this data, his comment is exposed for the pure racism it was.

He did not state that it was unfair that black pilots might receive contextual offers to enter pilot training schemes more often than white pilots because black people in the US are still generally poorer and go to poorer schools on average. Where’s the data that the pilots who received such contextual offers were less capable or less safe or held to lower safety standards when awarded their qualifications?

He stated explicitly that he would be worried about the safety of flying on a plane if he saw that the pilot was black so presumably, if he’s not a racist, there is evidence to support his assertion clearly showing that black pilots are more of a risk to safety than white ones and his alleged fear of a black pilot flying a plane on which he was a passenger was justified by objective data rather than him simply hating black people?

Where’s the data that support his assertion that black pilots are less safe and therefore shows that this wasn’t a racist comment?

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Weak.
You asked his reason and were given it.
He never claimed black pilots were inherently worse. He critiqued an affirmative action policy which logically if followed should lead to weaker candidates being given jobs. He doesnt need to wait years for data to arrive to suggest an idea is logically flawed. Who would even collect and publish data on pilot skin colour and safety? What a bizarre concept.

TheClaaaw · 19/09/2025 11:37

Underthinker · 19/09/2025 11:32

Weak.
You asked his reason and were given it.
He never claimed black pilots were inherently worse. He critiqued an affirmative action policy which logically if followed should lead to weaker candidates being given jobs. He doesnt need to wait years for data to arrive to suggest an idea is logically flawed. Who would even collect and publish data on pilot skin colour and safety? What a bizarre concept.

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No, you’ve not given any reason.

Black pilots have to do the same flying training and pass the same rigorous safety training as white pilots. This is the same regardless of any contextual offers made for any reason when entering the pilot training schemes. All pilots have demonstrated the same skills and qualified to the same level and have to have the same minimum number of flight hours and pass the same regular objective tests on safety training to be allowed to fly passenger jets.

So why would somebody be worried about their safety based on the skin colour of a pilot, when all have to meet the same objective standards in their training to fly planes unless they are a racist? And you’re unable (unsurprisingly) - as Kirk was - to provide any evidence that safety records of pilots are impacted by their skin colour (precisely because they all have to meet identical rigorous standards to be allowed to do so at all and continuously to keep doing so).

Kirk explicitly stated “If I see a black pilot I’m going to be like, boy, I hope he’s qualified.”

Please provide your evidence to support Kirk’s assertion that people should be more worried for their safety when flying on a plane if the pilot has black skin and that black pilots are allowed to fly passenger jets without passing the appropriate qualifications and safety training.

LondonLady1980 · 19/09/2025 11:42

Griffindor1979 · 17/09/2025 18:13

It’s so easy to take a sentence from a whole monalogue and use it to make someone look bad. I’ve watched the majority of his interactions in full. There was NOTHING hateful about him. He was so respectful and encouraged questions and people to keep debating when they didn’t agree. He said when you stop talking, it leads to violence as we lose our humanity. RIP Charlie Kirk.

This is how I feel.
He had very strong views that a lot of people didn't agree with but that didn't mean he was hateful.

BananaPeels · 19/09/2025 11:45

TheClaaaw · 19/09/2025 11:26

Again, please provide evidence showing the pilots with black skin did not have to meet the same objective tests in terms of qualifications and experience before they were allowed to fly passenger jets, which would justify such a position. Or data from safety records showing that skin colour is a relevant factor increasing the risk of plane crashes or unsafe flying practices.

In the absence of this data, his comment is exposed for the pure racism it was.

He did not state that it was unfair that black pilots might receive contextual offers to enter pilot training schemes more often than white pilots because black people in the US are still generally poorer and go to poorer schools on average. Where’s the data that the pilots who received such contextual offers were less capable or less safe or held to lower safety standards when awarded their qualifications?

He stated explicitly that he would be worried about the safety of flying on a plane if he saw that the pilot was black so presumably, if he’s not a racist, there is evidence to support his assertion clearly showing that black pilots are more of a risk to safety than white ones and his alleged fear of a black pilot flying a plane on which he was a passenger was justified by objective data rather than him simply hating black people?

Where’s the data that support his assertion that black pilots are less safe and therefore shows that this wasn’t a racist comment?

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You are missing the point.

the point is there is no evidence.

the point is that DEI schemes in general seek affective action to essentially promote non white, non male people from certain demographics. A way of doing that is to reduce standards. The Oxford Debater is a case in point. He got an incredibly rare very low offer. Eye raisingly low. Not even 1 grade down from other applicants but multiple grades down.

so what happens? People start questioning is he clever enough to be there. Has he met the standard? That then bleeds into all walks of life and so whenever people see a black pilot, for instance, or a female doing a more stereotypical male role, people start asking ‘did they lower the standard?’. Chances are no they didn’t. These are all super qualified candidates but if there was no DEI affirmative action then no one would even have the slightest doubt. You would know every single person there was the best of the best.

CK was making that point that he felt that people from certain demographics are actually being held back by actions which sought to improve things for them.

I actually agree with this.

1dayatatime · 19/09/2025 11:45

So let's clarify the "black pilots" and racism issue.

In 2021 United Airlines announced that they would be hiring 5,000 new pilots of which 50% would be female or people of colour, including blacks.

CK's view was that someone's skin colour or sex was irrelevant to the selection process and that United Airlines should be hiring the best candidates and highest qualifying recruits for the role based on ability and not skin colour or sex. By adding the additional but irrelevant criteria of skin colour and sex you narrow the selection pool and will have less able pilots compared to a wider bigger selection pool.

Of course there are some on this thread seem to be believe that the hiring of pilots where skin colour or sex is relevant but I would say that is clear racism or sexism.

Turning to point about boarding an aircraft and seeing a black pilot. Now I have boarded a number of flights where the pilot is female and my reaction is "good on her and that makes a refreshing change " . I know that she got the job on ability and skills because the airline doesn't have a DEI selection criteria stating that 50% of pilots had to be female.

Or in the case of say black pilots, if I boarded an American Airlines flight and the pilot was black then I know he was hired on ability and skills because AA doesn't have a DEI criteria. Whereas if I board a United Airlines flight and the pilot is black then there is a concern on whether he was hired in part because of his skin colour and that he might be less qualified than say the black AA pilot.

I hope this clarifies things.

Underthinker · 19/09/2025 11:47

TheClaaaw · 19/09/2025 11:37

No, you’ve not given any reason.

Black pilots have to do the same flying training and pass the same rigorous safety training as white pilots. This is the same regardless of any contextual offers made for any reason when entering the pilot training schemes. All pilots have demonstrated the same skills and qualified to the same level and have to have the same minimum number of flight hours and pass the same regular objective tests on safety training to be allowed to fly passenger jets.

So why would somebody be worried about their safety based on the skin colour of a pilot, when all have to meet the same objective standards in their training to fly planes unless they are a racist? And you’re unable (unsurprisingly) - as Kirk was - to provide any evidence that safety records of pilots are impacted by their skin colour (precisely because they all have to meet identical rigorous standards to be allowed to do so at all and continuously to keep doing so).

Kirk explicitly stated “If I see a black pilot I’m going to be like, boy, I hope he’s qualified.”

Please provide your evidence to support Kirk’s assertion that people should be more worried for their safety when flying on a plane if the pilot has black skin and that black pilots are allowed to fly passenger jets without passing the appropriate qualifications and safety training.

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Saying all pilots have the same training so they are all equal, is like saying all doctors from the same medical school will have the same proficiency. Everyone is different. Not all doctors get hired out of medical school, and not all pilots get hired by commercial airlines after training. Programmes to encourage more black students to enrol in pilot training would be fine (according to Kirk) setting arbitrary quotas is not.

But you're arguing with a dead man, I don't have strong views on affirmative action, I can see pros and cons. I don't think people against it are just racist though.

Alicealig · 19/09/2025 11:48

TheClaaaw · 19/09/2025 10:36

Why would it be relevant to even mention someone’s skin colour when calling them a “moron” for something they did that he didn’t like? Only a racist would consider their skin colour to be relevant to the discussion and noted it in the first place, unless he thinks somehow them having a different skin colour is related to his assessment that they were “moronic”?

Why was he “concerned” about the competence of black pilots, specifically? Why did he view their skin colour as a factor that would make them less able to fly a plane competently?

Why was he concerned about “prowling blacks” rather than just prowling violent criminals? Strange that he didn’t say “prowling men”, really, isn’t it, given that 98% of violent crime is committed by men. If he was wanting to address the profile of most offenders, surely that would have been his primary concern given that sex has far stronger correlation to violent offending than race, in all countries in the world currently and throughout history.

Nobody’s buying it, I’m afraid.

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Because it's relevant to the country as a whole AND to the black community. If black people as a community want to have better living standards it's important to consider and to be informed that black people are committing a disproportionate amount of the violent crime occurring. For example, he's noted that black people commit 50% of ALL murders! That's an issue, and it's not one that can be solved simply by the back community screaming racism when no evidence for such exists.

AzurePanda · 19/09/2025 11:49

We will have to see what the outcome of the target of having 50% plus of pilots being female and people of colour, it is too early to tell as to whether it’s achievable.

But Kirk’s point was that these policies corrode people’s thinking. We’ve seen evidence so far of DEI policies having a negative impact on fitness levels for the Police and Military as well as educational standards in a range of institutions.

TheClaaaw · 19/09/2025 11:56

BananaPeels · 19/09/2025 11:45

You are missing the point.

the point is there is no evidence.

the point is that DEI schemes in general seek affective action to essentially promote non white, non male people from certain demographics. A way of doing that is to reduce standards. The Oxford Debater is a case in point. He got an incredibly rare very low offer. Eye raisingly low. Not even 1 grade down from other applicants but multiple grades down.

so what happens? People start questioning is he clever enough to be there. Has he met the standard? That then bleeds into all walks of life and so whenever people see a black pilot, for instance, or a female doing a more stereotypical male role, people start asking ‘did they lower the standard?’. Chances are no they didn’t. These are all super qualified candidates but if there was no DEI affirmative action then no one would even have the slightest doubt. You would know every single person there was the best of the best.

CK was making that point that he felt that people from certain demographics are actually being held back by actions which sought to improve things for them.

I actually agree with this.

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You are missing the point.

the point is there is no evidence.

No. It’s you that’s missing the point. Given you admit the above, his comments were objectively racist because as you say they had no basis in evidence and were therefore based entirely on his hatred of black people.

I’m looking forward to your defence of his “prowling blacks” comment and how this wasn’t racist, and how his comment referring to a shop assistant’s skin colour when calling her “moronic” wasn’t racist and why her skin colour was relevant and legitimate to comment upon in this context if he wasn’t racist and didn’t believe that being black was related to being “moronic”.

I suspect your explanations and supporting data demonstrating why these comments were entirely reasonable and not remotely racist will be entirely absent, as is your evidence to support his attempt to imply that black pilots are allowed to fly planes without achieving the relevant objectively tested flying abilities and safety standards and that a black pilot of a passenger jet should therefore make people “worried if they are qualified” to fly it.

Perhaps you can also regale us with your rationale for trying to impose laws on society to force the parents of ten year old rape victims to make them continue with any resulting pregnancy, carry the child rapist’s baby to term and given birth, even though this would clearly be immensely traumatic for them with lifelong consequences and cause immense additional physical harm to their under-developed bodies? What’s your justification for Mr Kirk’s wish to force parents to inflict child abuse on their own children?

Again, we’re all waiting for your explanations and the evidence supporting your position.

LondonLady1980 · 19/09/2025 11:57

Underthinker · 19/09/2025 11:47

Saying all pilots have the same training so they are all equal, is like saying all doctors from the same medical school will have the same proficiency. Everyone is different. Not all doctors get hired out of medical school, and not all pilots get hired by commercial airlines after training. Programmes to encourage more black students to enrol in pilot training would be fine (according to Kirk) setting arbitrary quotas is not.

But you're arguing with a dead man, I don't have strong views on affirmative action, I can see pros and cons. I don't think people against it are just racist though.

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Exactly.

Just because everyone has the same qualification that doesn't mean that they are all of equal quality.

Look at nurses for example.... back when I qualified, a student getting an academic grade of 40% and meeting a minimum standard of performance on their placements was enough to get their qualification and pass their degree. If I was sitting in a room full of nursing candidates all applying for the same job, then a nurse who excelled on all her placements and achieved 85% pass rate on her exams/assignments would naturally be viewed as being more desirable than someone who just scraped through at 40%. Just because they're both qualified nurses that doesn't mean they are as equal as each other.

If obtaining a qualification alone was enough to label everyone as being completely equal in their skills and abiltiies and suitability for the job, then why would any organisation (of any career type) ever hold any kind of job interview?

BananaPeels · 19/09/2025 11:57

TheClaaaw · 19/09/2025 11:56

You are missing the point.

the point is there is no evidence.

No. It’s you that’s missing the point. Given you admit the above, his comments were objectively racist because as you say they had no basis in evidence and were therefore based entirely on his hatred of black people.

I’m looking forward to your defence of his “prowling blacks” comment and how this wasn’t racist, and how his comment referring to a shop assistant’s skin colour when calling her “moronic” wasn’t racist and why her skin colour was relevant and legitimate to comment upon in this context if he wasn’t racist and didn’t believe that being black was related to being “moronic”.

I suspect your explanations and supporting data demonstrating why these comments were entirely reasonable and not remotely racist will be entirely absent, as is your evidence to support his attempt to imply that black pilots are allowed to fly planes without achieving the relevant objectively tested flying abilities and safety standards and that a black pilot of a passenger jet should therefore make people “worried if they are qualified” to fly it.

Perhaps you can also regale us with your rationale for trying to impose laws on society to force the parents of ten year old rape victims to make them continue with any resulting pregnancy, carry the child rapist’s baby to term and given birth, even though this would clearly be immensely traumatic for them with lifelong consequences and cause immense additional physical harm to their under-developed bodies? What’s your justification for Mr Kirk’s wish to force parents to inflict child abuse on their own children?

Again, we’re all waiting for your explanations and the evidence supporting your position.

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Ok bowing out now. I wasn’t posting as I find your posts very aggressive and so morally pure that it isn’t even worth commenting. I can’t win. No one here will unless we absolutely agree with you.

i’mnot going to and I couldn’t even if I tried. I’m a pretty fair minded person but this has now gone too far

1dayatatime · 19/09/2025 12:01

Let's give a further example on degrees:

Let's say I am an engineering company looking to hire 10 engineering graduates. Now if I insist that 50% must be female then on a macro scale I will end up with less able graduates. Because 80% of engineering graduates are male so I would be trying to get 50% of my hires from 20% of the selection pool.

Alternatively say I was a Vetinary practice and wanted to hire 10 Vetinary graduates. If I insisted that 50% had to be male then on a macro scale I would end up with less able graduates. Because 80% of Vetinary graduates are female, so I would be trying to get 50% of my hires from 20% of the selection pool.

This is why DEI lowers standards as it introduces irrelevant criteria into the hiring process which therefore narrows the selection pool.

Plastictreees · 19/09/2025 12:11

Oh of course, tone policing and accusations of aggression. These sorts of personal comments are always used when someone is able to form a coherent rebuttal. @TheClaaaw has posted nothing ‘aggressive’ in the slightest. They just won’t allow people to obfuscate and twist their way out of answering important questions.

Plastictreees · 19/09/2025 12:17

CantCallItLove · 19/09/2025 11:03

Racism as we think of it doesn't actually exist and is a convenient concept the left likes to use

@underthinker do you ever read the thread and have qualms about the kind of people you align yourself with? (Like the poster quoted above). Ever stop and wonder about the kind of things Kirk supporters say with their full chest, out in public? Sometimes you should look around the room and ask yourself why you're standing with the racism-deniers.

Turns out you're a man, I'll hazard a guess that you're white and since you mentioned your wife then we know you're in a heterosexual relationship. So yes, this is just a theoretical argument on the internet you'd like to win. No one is threatening your rights, your dignity, your safety, your freedom to love and your very humanity. Kirk and his supporters were never coming for you. And, fuck empathy, right? You don't need to imagine for one second what it feels like for those he did have in his sights.

I promise this is it, I'm out! Hitting Hide Thread and going away for the weekend and this time I really won't be back.

Exactly. When you are standing in an echo chamber shouting with racism deniers, bigots and misogynists then it’s quite clear you are one of them. Just have the balls to admit it.

Of course it’s easy for those with no skin in the game to just view this as a hypothetical debate to be ‘won’ on the internet, cheap point scoring and wanting the last word is the goal here.

Best to zone it out. Safe in the knowledge that there are rationale and moderate people out there, and we don’t all harbour intransigent extreme views.

LondonLady1980 · 19/09/2025 12:21

TheClaaaw · 19/09/2025 11:26

Again, please provide evidence showing the pilots with black skin did not have to meet the same objective tests in terms of qualifications and experience before they were allowed to fly passenger jets, which would justify such a position. Or data from safety records showing that skin colour is a relevant factor increasing the risk of plane crashes or unsafe flying practices.

In the absence of this data, his comment is exposed for the pure racism it was.

He did not state that it was unfair that black pilots might receive contextual offers to enter pilot training schemes more often than white pilots because black people in the US are still generally poorer and go to poorer schools on average. Where’s the data that the pilots who received such contextual offers were less capable or less safe or held to lower safety standards when awarded their qualifications?

He stated explicitly that he would be worried about the safety of flying on a plane if he saw that the pilot was black so presumably, if he’s not a racist, there is evidence to support his assertion clearly showing that black pilots are more of a risk to safety than white ones and his alleged fear of a black pilot flying a plane on which he was a passenger was justified by objective data rather than him simply hating black people?

Where’s the data that support his assertion that black pilots are less safe and therefore shows that this wasn’t a racist comment?

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He did not say that black pilots are less safe.

I took Charlie Kirk's comments to mean that although black pilots are just as qualified as other pilots, there was no way of knowing if they got their job based on their abilities, experience, skills, suitability and knowledge etc, or if they were chosen over better candidates because of their skin colour (in order to meet a quota).

That doesn't take away from the pilot's qualification or ability to fly the plane, but just casting doubt over whether they actually were the best candidate or not, or whether they were just given the job regardless.

Alicealig · 19/09/2025 12:24

The inability of so many posters on here who are laughing at the death of a young man who had two young children and a wife just shows how far gone YOU are from being able to be a normal member of a society that functions.

Your arguments don't make sense and haven't been thought through. You take aim at someone for apparently taking away women's rights and making them give birth?
What planet are you from where this makes sense? You'd rather it be the case that women are allowed to go around killing their own children because they're an inconvenience?

The lack of humanity is FRIGHTENING. It's hard to find anyone in these times who even comes close to having the moral righteousness of a man like Charlie Kirk let alone the level of intelligence and intellectual ability in general is utterly insurpassable. As we are mostly women on here I have to assume it's our uncontrollable hormone levels that cause such irrational emotion based responses as it gives me no confidence that we have any business at all claiming to hold any positions of power anywhere any more. What a catastrophe this would be. I hope men from far and wide are able to see what wretched people women on here can be and hopefully they'll think twice about letting women have any more power than they've been given up to now.

PolkaDotPorridge · 19/09/2025 12:27

Alicealig · 19/09/2025 09:54

RIP Charlie, a good man with sound principles and beliefs. Those that didn't agree with your beliefs are those that were unable to live up to your standard. That's the top and bottom of it.

🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

Griffindor1979 · 19/09/2025 12:28

LondonLady1980 · 19/09/2025 11:42

This is how I feel.
He had very strong views that a lot of people didn't agree with but that didn't mean he was hateful.

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It seems to be all the left do- call you names, shut you down, silence you if you don’t agree. This is with all issues. It makes me so sad. I didn’t agree with all his views especially abortion but I there was nothing hateful about him. People feeling sorry for my friends and family due to my view make my point entirely.

Plastictreees · 19/09/2025 12:32

Alicealig · 19/09/2025 12:24

The inability of so many posters on here who are laughing at the death of a young man who had two young children and a wife just shows how far gone YOU are from being able to be a normal member of a society that functions.

Your arguments don't make sense and haven't been thought through. You take aim at someone for apparently taking away women's rights and making them give birth?
What planet are you from where this makes sense? You'd rather it be the case that women are allowed to go around killing their own children because they're an inconvenience?

The lack of humanity is FRIGHTENING. It's hard to find anyone in these times who even comes close to having the moral righteousness of a man like Charlie Kirk let alone the level of intelligence and intellectual ability in general is utterly insurpassable. As we are mostly women on here I have to assume it's our uncontrollable hormone levels that cause such irrational emotion based responses as it gives me no confidence that we have any business at all claiming to hold any positions of power anywhere any more. What a catastrophe this would be. I hope men from far and wide are able to see what wretched people women on here can be and hopefully they'll think twice about letting women have any more power than they've been given up to now.

LOL.

QuickMember · 19/09/2025 12:41

YouTube Turning Point USA is the best source for Charlie Kirk quotes where you can see the full conversation. Kirk was a religious man, I am not religious so that’s a big difference between us. However, the light, energy and decency emanating from this man is clear to see in the videos. I learned a lot about him just watching those.

AzurePanda · 19/09/2025 12:41

Hi @Alicealig , I don’t agree with a lot of your views as I’m an atheist and am pro choice (although I absolutely decry the recent change in the law here to allow abortion up until birth). However I really appreciated Charlie Kirk’s efforts to engage with young people and encourage open debate. His murder has made me reflect on religion and what its demise in western societies has meant. He did a lot of good in terms of opening up dialogue.

TheClaaaw · 19/09/2025 12:42

LondonLady1980 · 19/09/2025 11:57

Exactly.

Just because everyone has the same qualification that doesn't mean that they are all of equal quality.

Look at nurses for example.... back when I qualified, a student getting an academic grade of 40% and meeting a minimum standard of performance on their placements was enough to get their qualification and pass their degree. If I was sitting in a room full of nursing candidates all applying for the same job, then a nurse who excelled on all her placements and achieved 85% pass rate on her exams/assignments would naturally be viewed as being more desirable than someone who just scraped through at 40%. Just because they're both qualified nurses that doesn't mean they are as equal as each other.

If obtaining a qualification alone was enough to label everyone as being completely equal in their skills and abiltiies and suitability for the job, then why would any organisation (of any career type) ever hold any kind of job interview?

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All pilots must meet objective standards to obtain their flying licences, achieve the required scores in safety tests continuously to be allowed to continue to fly, and have the same number of hours of flying experience before they are allowed to fly passenger jets. Objective tests with recorded flight data are applied rigorously to all pilots and take no regard whatsoever of the colour of their skin, eyes, hair or any other body part.

Are you asserting that these objective and absolute standards are applied to different trainee and qualified pilots in different ways based on their skin colour, leading to genuine safety concerns? If so, where is your evidence for this? This would be an immense scandal.

Do you have any evidence that black pilots have a worse safety record and are less competent than white ones? If so, please provide it.

In the absence of such data Kirk’s claims that black pilots are a reason for concern and that people should be concerned about flying on a passenger jet with a black pilot and insinuating that they are not appropriately qualified are pure racism.

Kirk’s comment “boy, I hope they’re qualified” explicitly implied that black pilots are allowed to fly planes without meeting the objective training levels and safety standards to do so which all pilots have to meet. Where’s the evidence to support that this is the case, which you must provide if you wish to assert with any credibility that this wasn’t a racist comment?

ColdSalads · 19/09/2025 12:44

Claw,

Millions of more people love and miss Charlie Kirk than you can imagine, an incredibly large number of those are non-white.

Your anger is a result of being exposed.

Plastictreees · 19/09/2025 12:49

ColdSalads · 19/09/2025 12:44

Claw,

Millions of more people love and miss Charlie Kirk than you can imagine, an incredibly large number of those are non-white.

Your anger is a result of being exposed.

They really don’t, he lived and died a hated bigot, but please go on deluding yourself!