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Actually Pro Immigration- Hear Me Out?

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n4mech4ng3r · 25/07/2025 20:09

I have always been, and will always be, pro immigrant, pro asylum seeker, and pro refugee. It saddens me that I seem to be in the vast minority these days, the lack of empathy from the general population of the UK in 2025 is disgraceful imo.

I chose as part of my career to support refugees, and it has opened my eyes even more every day. The tragedies these young people have gone through are unimaginable for anyone here, and the treatment they get when they arrive is appalling.

When illegal immigration is brought up in a political context, it is always devoid of humanity, vulnerable people spoken about like an invasive species. I implore anyone so far removed from the realities of ‘illegal’ immigrants, especially those who risked their lives to be here, to volunteer for a refugee charity.

These are children, overjoyed to learn simple words so they can make friends with our children in the playground. Teenagers, completely overwhelmed by food they’ve never seen before (like fish fingers!). Young families, so grateful to a country that wants them to ‘go back to where they come from’ even if they die there.

It’s heartbreaking, and it makes me sick. Every time I see the Reform lot, racists, and other bigots treating immigrants as the scapegoat, I can’t help but think of my little students, their families, and the stories they’ve told me of life before they arrived.

It baffles me how people can go on about ‘British values’ while showing absolutely no kindness to the people who need it most. What’s the point of this national pride if it’s built on cruelty and exclusion? I see so much ‘we need to look after our own first’ rhetoric, but why can’t we do both? Why does helping people fleeing war and persecution make you angry? Why is that your line in the sand?

If anyone else is feeling like this, works in this area, or has something to add I’d love to hear it. If you’re going to try and change my opinion, please save your energy ❤️

Changed my username for this one because I’m discussing my professional life and opinions rather than my family life. Long time user over several accounts. Thanks for reading, sorry if it’s a rant.

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myheadsjustmush · 26/07/2025 11:34

All the talk is of women and children.

So why is my local town full of single men, hanging around everywhere you turn? I am a confident person, but I now avoid my own town because I feel intimidated and unsafe.

Local crime is out of control on so many levels; thefts, muggings, sexual assaults etc.

Not long back, a local young woman was knifed to death by an illegal immigrant who she worked with (same job as you OP) and was trying to help.

I have teenage daughters and I worry every time they are out.

The people who are having to live in the thick of this sh!t on a daily basis have had enough. End of. 😡

myheadsjustmush · 26/07/2025 11:52

The OP seems to think that everyone who does not agree with her is racist.

I am not racist.

I don't care if someone is white, black, brown, pink or purple. Crime is crime and the perpetrators should be dealt with accordingly.

There are lots of posters, like me and my family, who are having to live in the thick of this sh!t show - and take it from me, it is horrendous.

This country is at breaking point.

I certainly don't want to be lectured on being more accepting by the OP....😡

DidieRi · 26/07/2025 11:54

Isn’t a well known meme that anyone saying “ hear me out” is about to spout nonsense…

Wallywobbles · 26/07/2025 11:54

OverlyFragrant · 25/07/2025 20:10

Do you want a medal?

You’re not coming across well here.

MrsSkylerWhite · 26/07/2025 11:56

Mummysgogetter · 25/07/2025 20:52

On one hand I do completely agree with your sentiment. On the other, I worry about our NHS - it’s on its knees trying to cater for the amount of people in the country. We always blame the elderly living longer with health conditions common in old age but people who are born here and might live, say, 10 years longer (and that’s being generous) does not increase the amount of people by 3.07 million in the last decade. UK born and bred are usually not having large families anymore so it’s not that. How can our infrastructures cope and at what cost? And that’s not even thinking about the amount of countryside that is being eaten up by new houses. And, as someone said above, some peoples cultures just do not integrate with a western society - the fact that men from certain cultures think it’s okay to have sex with a child.

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The NHS would collapse without immigrant workers.

MaturingCheeseball · 26/07/2025 11:57

So, OP, open borders. Terrible housing crisis ensues. There is an appeal for billeting. Will you accept 5 men to live in your house?

foodymcfoodface · 26/07/2025 11:57

The “it’s a men problem and therefore we should let them in“ argument is non sensical. Yes it is a men problem. So why let more in?! As well as being undocumented and from misogynistic countries? Surely that’s an easy win to simply say no, we’re going to be selective. Fixing all violent misogynistic men in the country is not.

foodymcfoodface · 26/07/2025 11:58

MrsSkylerWhite · 26/07/2025 11:56

The NHS would collapse without immigrant workers.

Legal ones

TheGentleButFirmMadonna · 26/07/2025 11:59

You haven't got a clue what you're talking about.

Kids who learn English usually have documented parents, young men on boats don't and tear their passports

You are mixing the whole thing up. There around 30 strands of various types of migrants...some are terrorists and rapists

Wake up. Teach the kids on your job but do inform yourself on the reality this country is facing and the huge fuck up coming.

Bigots, racists all that. Do you know who they are or you just heard the words

DidieRi · 26/07/2025 12:00

Wallywobbles · 26/07/2025 11:54

You’re not coming across well here.

I thought exactly the opposite. Came across brilliantly. I don’t think you should be speaking so definitively as if you are The Voice Of Truth.

MrsSkylerWhite · 26/07/2025 12:02

foodymcfoodface · 26/07/2025 11:58

Legal ones

No-one is illegal until their asylum claim has been assessed.

MaturingCheeseball · 26/07/2025 12:02

It is also the case that some countries are letting prisoners out and giving them a passport (which can then be lost). Win, win. For them.

It just seems utterly bizarre to admit undocumented people. It really is shitting on the citizens here to allow men of whom nothing whatsoever is known to walk around freely.

MrsSkylerWhite · 26/07/2025 12:03

MaturingCheeseball · 26/07/2025 11:57

So, OP, open borders. Terrible housing crisis ensues. There is an appeal for billeting. Will you accept 5 men to live in your house?

We have a terrible housing crisis already. Because successive governments have failed to build enough houses. How is that the fault of immigrants?

MaturingCheeseball · 26/07/2025 12:06

@MrsSkylerWhite - that is irrelevant. The OP was hopeful for any number of immigrants. How could any country accommodate millions of new arrivals? And you think they should?

MiloMinderbinder925 · 26/07/2025 12:19

MrsSkylerWhite · 26/07/2025 12:03

We have a terrible housing crisis already. Because successive governments have failed to build enough houses. How is that the fault of immigrants?

Everything is the fault of 'illegals'. State of the high street, failing NHS, crumbling schools, pot holes, lack of GP appointments, bin men strike, the recent heatwave - I could go on but you get the picture.

MrsSkylerWhite · 26/07/2025 12:21

MiloMinderbinder925 · 26/07/2025 12:19

Everything is the fault of 'illegals'. State of the high street, failing NHS, crumbling schools, pot holes, lack of GP appointments, bin men strike, the recent heatwave - I could go on but you get the picture.

Nuts, isn’t it? You’d think that history would have taught us all by now that blaming the other doesn’t usually go well.

MrsSkylerWhite · 26/07/2025 12:26

MaturingCheeseball · 26/07/2025 12:06

@MrsSkylerWhite - that is irrelevant. The OP was hopeful for any number of immigrants. How could any country accommodate millions of new arrivals? And you think they should?

Of course it isn’t irrelevant! It’s precisely the point.

If governments of past decades had managed housing needs, the NHS, infrastructure properly, most of the problems conveniently blamed on immigrants by dog whistle politicians wouldn’t exist.

Starting with Thatcher selling of public housing stock at bargain basement prices and forbidding local authorities to use the receipts on replacing with more social housing. Right to buy was the root cause of most of our young people not being able to access safe, secure housing. Bugger all to do with immigrants.

EasternStandard · 26/07/2025 12:30

MrsSkylerWhite · 26/07/2025 11:56

The NHS would collapse without immigrant workers.

The NHS probably does rely on people, but when you say we need to keep immigration what is your limit? How do you see it working over next few decades and those people age, does it keep going up?

MiloMinderbinder925 · 26/07/2025 12:36

MrsSkylerWhite · 26/07/2025 12:21

Nuts, isn’t it? You’d think that history would have taught us all by now that blaming the other doesn’t usually go well.

We've seen it all before. A decade ago everything was the fault of the EU.

Illjusthavethebreadsticks · 26/07/2025 12:43

Mummysgogetter · 25/07/2025 20:59

In addition, police have issued a warning to women and children not to go out on their own near Chatsworth house, Derbyshire where immigrants are being housed!
and before anyone says “well, white men can be paedophiles etc” yes but it’s not considered “normal” in our culture to have sex with or marry a girl as soon as she is menstruating.

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Immigrants are being housed at Chatsworth House?!

Maddy70 · 26/07/2025 12:50

I agree with you 💯. I also work with refugees from time to time ( not in the UK) their stories are tragic and they are so stoic. Where I am we don't have all the horrible rhetoric towards them and it's so upsetting seeing how they are spoken about and treated in the UK

ChrisMartinsKisskam · 26/07/2025 13:03

Then I’m sure you will open your home to the ones who are being housed in hotels
or maybe the house next door

would you honestly have a strange man or woman stay in your home wheg you know absolutely 0 about them especially as you have a 3 year old

maybe open your own home to these men & live with them before you expect everyone else to

ChrisMartinsKisskam · 26/07/2025 13:05

MrsSkylerWhite · 26/07/2025 11:56

The NHS would collapse without immigrant workers.

I’m sure these men that arrive in boats aren’t working in the NHS

Parsley4321 · 26/07/2025 13:34

@n4mech4ng3r can you read what @myheadsjustmush has written. Her area is at
breaking point can you just not get it ? People with lived experience losing their shit and rightly so
do you live near a town like this ? I doubt it !
@myheadsjustmush im really really sorry it sounds like hell and I would of been protesting too if it was my town

Allseeingallknowing · 26/07/2025 14:02

DumbbellIdiot · 25/07/2025 20:18

You’re confusing a different point of view to hate. Most people I know don’t hate refugees, but they do have concerns about young men from cultures that don’t respect women coming into this country from France with no checks.
Why take the risky crossing to England when they’re already in a safe country? It’s an economic decision these people are taking when they cross the channel, and I can understand why there is growing discontent with the situation in the UK.

Agree. We have to stop the U.K. being such a soft touch. Residents resent migrants not only being given a place to live, but also access to medical care, dentistry, interpreters, plus all sorts of freebies, phones etc. Not content with all this, some are working as food delivery drivers while all their accommodation and food is paid for, plus shoplifting high end goods and selling them. Understandably people are also wary of hoards of young men hanging around, not compatible with our culture.