Actually Pro Immigration- Hear Me Out?

[n4mech4ng3r]

I have always been, and will always be, pro immigrant, pro asylum seeker, and pro refugee. It saddens me that I seem to be in the vast minority these days, the lack of empathy from the general population of the UK in 2025 is disgraceful imo.

I chose as part of my career to support refugees, and it has opened my eyes even more every day. The tragedies these young people have gone through are unimaginable for anyone here, and the treatment they get when they arrive is appalling.

When illegal immigration is brought up in a political context, it is always devoid of humanity, vulnerable people spoken about like an invasive species. I implore anyone so far removed from the realities of ‘illegal’ immigrants, especially those who risked their lives to be here, to volunteer for a refugee charity.

These are children, overjoyed to learn simple words so they can make friends with our children in the playground. Teenagers, completely overwhelmed by food they’ve never seen before (like fish fingers!). Young families, so grateful to a country that wants them to ‘go back to where they come from’ even if they die there.

It’s heartbreaking, and it makes me sick. Every time I see the Reform lot, racists, and other bigots treating immigrants as the scapegoat, I can’t help but think of my little students, their families, and the stories they’ve told me of life before they arrived.

It baffles me how people can go on about ‘British values’ while showing absolutely no kindness to the people who need it most. What’s the point of this national pride if it’s built on cruelty and exclusion? I see so much ‘we need to look after our own first’ rhetoric, but why can’t we do both? Why does helping people fleeing war and persecution make you angry? Why is that your line in the sand?

If anyone else is feeling like this, works in this area, or has something to add I’d love to hear it. If you’re going to try and change my opinion, please save your energy ❤️

Changed my username for this one because I’m discussing my professional life and opinions rather than my family life. Long time user over several accounts. Thanks for reading, sorry if it’s a rant.

I am honestly in despair at the entire situation.

No government has had the guts to deal with this, and subsequently our once lovely towns are drowning.

As I have said in my previous posts, I avoid my local town like the plague, and only go there if I HAVE to. I don't feel safe at all. The last time I went there, I was definitely in the minority. I could count on one hand people with a local accent. It really is not a nice place at all.

The posh, well to do folk, with their high and mighty righteous attitude, spouting we need to do more, clearly don't live in the thick of it like the rest of us. If they did, they may well change their tune......😡

I am with you on this one, even some EU countries are starting to make noise.

Getting out of the ECHR should have happened on the 1st day after Brexit. That's what the people voted for.

But they got conned by the cowardice of the Tories and the omnishambles of BJ. The UK lost the economic benefits but still has its hands tied to act on migration, which was the main reason people voted for Brexit in the first place.

And I am not even pro-Brexit.

I didn't hear the full interview with the Greek minister this morning, so I can't tell you where the migrants are being returned but apparently a lot are Sudanese.

I find it refreshing that we can actually speak of our concerns on here without the posts getting deleted or it turning in to a
”You’re a nazi, racist, bigoted xenophobe” nonsense being spouted.
Not so long back you would have been shot down for daring to voice your concerns but thankfully the toxic ‘Be Kind’ rhetoric doesn’t hold weight anymore.

It’s not that there are just men,( though that does bring its own problems) it’s the sheer numbers we can’t deal with. There isn’t limitless accommodation, there are problems with swelling Doctors‘ lists, paying for interpreters etc, the fact that their large families will follow.There is resentment that they are given bed ad and board, phones, leisure opportunities that residents can’t afford themselves.
We are literally too accommodating, too soft . The only way we can stem the tide ( sorry about pun) is to severely limit numbers and make the U.K. far less inviting. Starmer shows no inclination to do so!

Well put!

You’re right but they will screaming about their human rights!

I think that the OP is probably not coming back now…. I do feel for her, as it’s not nice to discover that quite a lot of people disagree with her. To clarify, if an asylum seeker family moved next to me, I’d try to build bridges and be kind to them, I’d hope we could be friends. But that doesn’t mean I want large numbers of asylum seekers to come to the U.K. The current numbers are not sustainable.

I have to say ,I'm really hoping the same
Ive watched the leader of conservatives.kemi I think she is called in parliament she holds no hosteges she gets Keir told .
But it's only snippets I've seen .
I'm not voting green again

Do you feel the UK is the only country that’s affected though?

The world is a shit place right now and total refugees have swelled in number. In my daughter’s boyfriend’s home country of Turkey they have 3.6 million refugees living there from all directions. He’s not happy either and I think he would laugh at the UK numbers and complaining.

I don’t advocate open borders for all because immigration does have to be carefully managed but I think it’s silly to take it out on refugees by protesting outside their hostels like some are doing. It’s a much bigger, global problem. The problem is that the world is collaborating less and every country is doing its own thing.

I expect it to get worse.

Parents are protesting at hotels where men have been arrested for raping their children. Is that silly?

Letting these men know that they shouldn't be raping children is silly? Don't you know what is happening?

I was told people who are involved with volunteering and jobs like you get train to what to say to the media and social media. Pretty certain is the case as you all repeat exact the same things all the time.

Who are we kidding? The U.K. or at least London did not have the level of crime of the last 5-10 years. This is all directly link to illegal inmigration. The gangs, machete and knife crime and money laundering shops replacing high street shops. The recent documentary in Netflix of the Chinese lady killed for fraud by two man one From Syria and one from Rumania.

I will not put my hand on fire to defend all the refugees and asylum seekers either. There are further issues to consider like culture, identity, resources.

@Papyrophile Thats what happened in Australia, If you were genuinely fleeing death and persecution to be in a facility like that would be better wouldn’t it.

@floppybit you are totally correct about areas used, I live in a poorer area and there are migrant hotels. At one point there were 600 asylum seekers in our little town. The number went down for a while as lots were relocated but others have now replaced them. All I know is the Police were called there loads at one point. That’s the Police force we pay for that are having to deal with all that rather than other causes of crime. It’s a completely Government made situation wasting public money.

Lord only knows the state the country will be in ,by the time reform get in power .
There's no way they won't at the next election
So that's bye bye NHS ,all because starmer can't do what he promised which was to smash the gangs.

@n4mech4ng3r
Well said.

What this country actually needs is to be pro-business, pro-growth, pro-innovation. Instead, the government keeps taxing everyone up the arse and wondering why nothing’s moving forward. Immigrants bring fresh ideas, new businesses, energy, and growth. Without that, the UK risks becoming stagnant fast. Everyone blaming all of the UK's problems on immigrants, please look at history to see how that turns out. Not well.

Suicidal empathy is what's got us into this mess.

Anything now is to little to late
4 more years of unchecked immigration will leave us financially not far of a third world country.
When they all bring families over and put their UC claim in
We are fucked as a country.
We need to be picking and choosing who we help ,like the children from Gaza,they need our help
It should not be going to able young men entering illegally

Labour are fundamentally unable to do what is necessary ideologically, which is leave the ECHR. Most countries across Europe now realise this is the only way. Keir Starmer and the Attorney General will act as an impediment to change. They need to go as soon as possible. Hopefully the country is coming to this realisation.

I don't think they are
I think to many think like corbin
Plus what will replace them
I don't want to loose the NHS at the expense of immigration
I want all immigration stopped..for a time ..to shake things down and start filling jobs with UK born people.
Then we look at who we want to invite in to the country
So for example the children from Gaza ,they need our help
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But millions of un documented able fit young men ,with attitude towards women from the dark ages ,no thanks ,got enough already

It doesn’t really feel that hard to grasp. The point is the VAST majority of people coming over on the boats aren’t genuine refugees, they’re economic migrants. Young men perfectly happy and willing to leave their wives and children at home, apparently in a place so dangerous they had to flee themselves?

Can someone pro immigration please actually respond to this point for once?

Exactly

You lose all credibility or intellect when you say all men are the same. It’s so juvenile. It’s been a reported fact lately that Pakistani Muslims for example, are 20 times more likely to commit sexual violence than other races.

It’s literally like you have your head in the sand. It’s not racist to concede that not all cultures are equal