Zelensky - Trump meeting.…just horrible. BBC news live.

[JanieJS]

Scary stuff.

I don't know what to say.

Awful. Just simply the worst and most dangerous turn of events for the whole world now.

So what do YOU think should happen then, if not appeasement?

They’re in NATO. He can’t without trigging the NATO response.

I think some people on this thread should read up about the concept of the "Russkiy Mir" and what Putin and his Chief Priest Kyrill envisage.

I hope Starmer puts the meeting of European leaders due Sunday on hold until this all settles. No point making decisions and promises when the situation is so volatile. Need calm clear heads for agreement on the next strategic move.

I think anyone who believes in freedom of an independent country should do what they can to help that country defend itself.
It is Putin who started this. The war would be over tomorrow if he withdrew his troops. He is the warmonger and he is the bully.

If America say they aren't backing it (which they have) NATO response is meaningless. With Trump NATO is dead.

I will be boycotting American goods and services now as much as possible. I know it won't be easy as the stuff is everywhere but I can try one step at a time. The place needs isolating.

Yes I know all of this. There are multiple wars going on all over the world.

I watched the tanks queuing up.

People should still have a choice. No-one should be forced to point a gun at someone and pull the trigger.
The Russians they are killing are people's sons too. They don't want to do it either.

I don't believe in conscription. I would leave any country that tried to force conscription on its people.

A pair of nasty spiteful bully boys showing off in front of the camera, they wouldn't speak to pootin in that way. Good for President Zelensky for leaving and going home, dreadful behaviour.

The interesting thing with this thread is that generally the bots creep in, sowing seeds of misinformation and putting doubts in peoples minds. After that performance it is clear that the bots are just bots since no rational human being could be putting across such views having seen it.

? The presidents whose country has been illegally invaded is attacked in love TV by another president and his deputy and the person who's been illegally invaded should be ashamed?

Chernobyl still affected us…

Yep, defo some bots on here!

And look what is happening to NATO with Trumps statements.
Putin must be rubbing his hands with glee when Trump says what he does. An unstable NATO alliance is the dream.

Agreed

Then you'd better hope where you go has better treatment of refugees than we do at the moment.

Absolute Trump domination. Cut funding to the ungrateful dictator and watch him run back begging for forgiveness.

This started as a thread about the horrifying public treatment of one man by another two.
Clear emotional abuse and bullying. Lack, of respect and an indicator of what happens when democracy is threatened by corrupt men.

Please don't let the bots and trolls deflect from our outrage.

IGNORE THEM.

Don't feed them and they will starve.

Baited so that they can say they can't deal with him. Zelenskyy is finished if he expects the US to honour the security guarantees they gave.

He must depend on Europe. Because neither Trump nor Putin want him and it suits both of them that he goes. It does not matter how brave or noble you are. In fact they hate it more. Gets you killed in Russia.

Yes - I need to step back.

They want rid of Zelensky and have tried very hard today to make him look bad on a national and international stage

Like so many Ukrainians I believe that getting rid of Zelensky would be no bad thing

Very obviously Putin/Russia are in the wrong for invading in the first place, but the poor people dreserve better than this corrupt comedian

The new “Axis of Evil”?

I think Zelensky left and Trump is trying to save face and said he asked him to leave

Nah, Zelensky walked and im with him 100%

You think Starmer and Europe have any influence whatsoever?