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Zelensky - Trump meeting.…just horrible. BBC news live.

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JanieJS · 28/02/2025 18:08

Scary stuff.

I don't know what to say.

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Pootlemcsmootle · 28/02/2025 19:26

ThankyouBakedP0tato · 28/02/2025 19:22

So is the solution to fight the war forever with the country of Ukraine as the battleground? UK and US just keep sending billions upon billions of pounds worth of arms?

I don't know what the solution is but I'm sure arms manufacturers are getting excessively rich on the back of this.

But what would your solution be then?

Unfortunately in war time there is war. It's a mess and every resource has to be thrown at it.

Ukraine is a buffer between Europe and Russia by this point. We all learnt in history class the gross mistake that acquiescing in the face of Hitler was. History shows beyond any shadow of a doubt that Putin sees compromise and immediately exploits it.

The simple truth is Russia invaded Ukraine. This isn't a war. It's an invasion. It's like a disease spreading throughout someone's body. You have to fight back. There's no choice. Sad but true.

Wildflowers99 · 28/02/2025 19:26

Bloody this! We followed them, as did Australia, into the Iraq war which was essentially revenge for 9/11, because they convinced us it was for the sake of global peace. Maybe we should ask them for the money back? Get Trump to endlessly thank us for laying down the lives of OUR soldiers and spending OUR tax pounds backing them?

Donttellempike · 28/02/2025 19:26

subfertilepcos · 28/02/2025 19:04

I also agree. Trump lost his temper far too quickly and Vance was on edge from the start. They went into it defensively there’s clearly a bigger problem than any of us can comprehend

It was a plan to humiliate Zelenskyy from the off. Vance and the odious orange twat we’re getting wound up as he kept his cool

spoodlesee · 28/02/2025 19:27

@swimsong & who can stop them

TheRosesAreInBloom · 28/02/2025 19:27

LunaNorth · 28/02/2025 18:33

I’ve never actually wished anyone dead before. It’s not a nice feeling.

Not even Putin?

JanieJS · 28/02/2025 19:27

ThejoyofNC · 28/02/2025 19:21

I can't actually believe what I'm reading. Zelensky ought to be ashamed of himself.

Wrong thread!

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swimsong · 28/02/2025 19:28

MichaelandKirk · 28/02/2025 19:11

Pootle - would you be happy with your children being asked to fight for Ukraine? Zelensky is forcing Ukraine’s young people to a fight a war. Does that sit OK with you? What if it was your son or daughter?

Why are you leaving Putin's vast conscription out of the equation?

TENSsion · 28/02/2025 19:28

I really don’t want to go to war with Russia. If Trump and Vance putting on a show for Putin ensures we won’t, then so be it.

hangingonfordearlife1 · 28/02/2025 19:28

TheodoraCrumpet · 28/02/2025 18:15

Any escalation would be on the head of Trump and his buddy Putin. That's what the world sees. I admire Zelenskyy's composure, and wonder how long he can sustain it.

well he is a paid actor after all

Mumtobabyhavoc · 28/02/2025 19:28

AlteredStater · 28/02/2025 19:25

Why should he? In my opinion Trump (who keeps boasting what a great negotiator he is) and Vance should be ashamed by bullying someone they really wanted a deal with. What kind of way is that to negotiate??

@ThejoyofNC
Stop being a propagandist.

Wildflowers99 · 28/02/2025 19:28

TENSsion · 28/02/2025 19:28

I really don’t want to go to war with Russia. If Trump and Vance putting on a show for Putin ensures we won’t, then so be it.

They’ve made it more likely. Not less.

tallhotpinkflamingo · 28/02/2025 19:28

spoodlesee · 28/02/2025 19:24

I can't actually believe what I'm reading. Zelensky ought to be ashamed of himself

Fuck me, who watches this & comes to the above conclusion. we are doomed!

they let these people vote you know.

this is how we get into these messes.

NovemberMorn · 28/02/2025 19:29

Trump the peacekeeper.🙄
The man is insane.
If anyone has the ability to star WW3...he is your man.

bakedFishandChips · 28/02/2025 19:29

MichaelandKirk · 28/02/2025 19:11

Pootle - would you be happy with your children being asked to fight for Ukraine? Zelensky is forcing Ukraine’s young people to a fight a war. Does that sit OK with you? What if it was your son or daughter?

Every country's nation go to war when there is war. There is no way you can say No. Some of them that say No are called certain names you know and get killed. Grow up.

Mumtobabyhavoc · 28/02/2025 19:29

hangingonfordearlife1 · 28/02/2025 19:28

well he is a paid actor after all

Another Russian ally.

AgnesX · 28/02/2025 19:29

That was terrible. Utterly dreadful. How Zelensky held his place I don't know.

Vance is a total shit and how they ganged up on him was nothing short of bullying.

echt · 28/02/2025 19:29

Mumtobabyhavoc · 28/02/2025 19:28

@ThejoyofNC
Stop being a propagandist.

You give the poster too much credit.

They've said nothing to explain their, ahem, view.

Trendyname · 28/02/2025 19:29

Trump and Vance are such bullies. Zelensky spoke very well. But it looks like media in white house is prescreened by Trump's team. One reporter said Zelensky didnt respect white house by not wearing a suit, another journalist praised Trump for his morals. Trump said deal is more important than security for Ukraine.
I am upset that BBC reporter decribed it as Trump, Vance and Zelensky raising their voice, when in reality Zelensky was answering questions calmly despite being bullied and yelled at by Trump and Vance.
Not sure why BBC couldn't be honest about the reporting. Is it the fear of Trump?

tallhotpinkflamingo · 28/02/2025 19:30

Mumtobabyhavoc · 28/02/2025 19:28

@ThejoyofNC
Stop being a propagandist.

Oh you think telling someone to wear a suit in a war is the pinnacle of diplomacy and peacekeeping?

ThejoyofNC · 28/02/2025 19:30

GrammarTeacher · 28/02/2025 19:22

Why?

Because he sat there, dressed like he was going to walk the dog, with his arms folded talking absolute nonsense. All whilst people in his country are dying. He was in dodgy dealings with Biden and now the jig is up, he's sour the billions have stopped rolling in.

I said it before on another thread and people called me all sorts. He doesn't want this war to end.

Imbusytodaysorry · 28/02/2025 19:30

TENSsion · 28/02/2025 19:28

I really don’t want to go to war with Russia. If Trump and Vance putting on a show for Putin ensures we won’t, then so be it.

You really believe that is what happened ?

Gasp0deTheW0nderD0g · 28/02/2025 19:30

LunaNorth · 28/02/2025 18:33

I’ve never actually wished anyone dead before. It’s not a nice feeling.

The trouble with wishing Trump dead is that Vance would immediately become President. I find that pretty frightening.

BBQHulaHoops · 28/02/2025 19:30

https://www.theguardian.com/world/live/2025/feb/28/volodymyr-zelenskyy-donald-trump-us-minerals-deal-russia-ukraine-live-news?CMP=share_btn_url&page=with%3Ablock-67c206f48f089e8672a04b47#block-67c206f48f089e8672a04b47

32m ago18.57 GMT
If you’re trying to find someone happy with the outcome of the talks in the Oval Office, we’re just getting this line from the AFP:
Trump-Zelensky shouting match ‘historic’, says top Russian official

SassK · 28/02/2025 19:30

tallhotpinkflamingo · 28/02/2025 19:26

Well quite, that's why they baited him. But it's massively backfired. Sympathy and support for Zelensky and Ukraine will be massive after this.

US was only giving 42% of Ukraine's support, if everyone puts a bit more in and there are some extra contributions from countries that haven't got involved yet, it's easily surpassed.

Some minor NATO country needs to put boots in Ukraine and trigger article 5 now.

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'Only' 🤦‍♀️
Europe doesn't have the defence capacity to make up for what the US provides.

Donttellempike · 28/02/2025 19:31

SassK · 28/02/2025 19:15

We're not. This is hysterical nonsense.

It really isn’t. Educate yourself

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