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Trump fans, what are your thoughts now please?

323 replies

lentilbake16 · 19/02/2025 17:16

Just wondering.

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MercurialButton · 20/02/2025 22:45

Talkinpeace · 20/02/2025 20:40

The US Rice farmers have to find other customers for a crop that is already in the ground.
The USA does not need that rice - that is why they sold it to the Government for overseas aid.
Those farmers will suffer massive financial losses
due to Trump

Don’t see any “evidence” that this rice subsidy loss is true.
sorry

BigMoonRising · 20/02/2025 23:02

MercurialButton · 20/02/2025 22:45

Don’t see any “evidence” that this rice subsidy loss is true.
sorry

If you Google, it will come.

Convolvulus · 20/02/2025 23:39

ThejoyofNC · 20/02/2025 08:19

Treatment for ectopic pregnancy is not banned. No need to travel.

When it means aborting the pregnancy, understandably medics are reluctant to do it because they don't fancy being subject to a long and unpleasant investigation and/or trial.

Have a look, for instance, at the experience of Kyleigh Thurman who was turned away from a Texas hospital despite her obstetrician advising that she probably had an ectopic pregnancy. She only received treatment several days later, by which time she was bleeding and in agony, after her obstetrician travelled to the hospital to plead with the staff to terminate. The delay caused the pregnancy to rupture, she nearly bled to death, and had to have emergency surgery to remove a fallopian tube.

Or how about Kelsie Norris-De La Cruz, who was refused treatment for an ectopic pregnancy with another Texas hospital? By the time she was treated, her pregnancy was near rupture, and she lost a fallopian tube and most of her right ovary.

There are far too many similar reports. Texas challenged the Biden government's guidance requiring states to offer abortions in life-endangering situations, and there is real fear that Trump will withdraw it.

Convolvulus · 20/02/2025 23:42

Followthetrend · 20/02/2025 07:46

He's at least compos mentis, not like the senile old duffer they had before !

This is the man who wanted us to inject bleach to cure covid. And the one who seriously believed that there was a way to make aircraft literally invisible.

Does that sound compos mentis to you?

Convolvulus · 20/02/2025 23:45

dottiehens · 20/02/2025 07:21

In case you do not know Zelensky should have called elections or is due or passed the time of his mandate so this is why he is being accused of being a dictator.

Edited

I take it you therefore class Churchill as a dictator? He didn't call elections when they were due in time of war, either.

MrsBennetsPoorNerves · 21/02/2025 00:07

EasternStandard · 20/02/2025 19:45

Of course, we all want the killing to stop

What do you see the realistic options are for this?

Honestly, I don't think there are any realistic options right now.

However, I don't think rewarding Russia and simply forcing Ukraine to capitulate will achieve any sort of sustainable peace. Quite the contrary, I think it will lead to further aggression and more killing in the longer term.

If the Ukrainians get to the point where they decide that enough is enough and they would rather just live under Russian rule, then I will accept and respect their decision. Until such time, I don't think it is for the US, the UK or any other foreign power to decide that it is time for the Ukrainians to stop fighting for their freedom.

Of course, foreign powers are free to withdraw their support from Ukraine as they see fit. That's their prerogative but they need to be prepared for any unintended consequences that may arise from their decisions.

MrsBennetsPoorNerves · 21/02/2025 00:10

A terribly inconvenient fact for Trump. I believe he rather admires Churchill.

Then again, he clearly admires Putin, so perhaps calling someone a dictator isn't actually an insult in his book at all. Perhaps it's simply what he is aspiring to himself.

Followthetrend · 21/02/2025 05:42

Convolvulus · 20/02/2025 23:42

This is the man who wanted us to inject bleach to cure covid. And the one who seriously believed that there was a way to make aircraft literally invisible.

Does that sound compos mentis to you?

Edited

He was 'brainstorming' ideas for further discussion.

I think that's more productive than calling world leaders by their enemy's name or trying to sit on chairs that aren't there. 😁

EasternStandard · 21/02/2025 07:54

Of course, foreign powers are free to withdraw their support from Ukraine as they see fit.

The trouble is even Zelenskyy knows he can't continue without the US. So people may want him to take the decision but he needs funds to do that.

Since Putin invaded and up until last few months I was all in for funding a proxy war. Money only, not troops. But two things softened that strong view, the sheer number of deaths on all sides and the discussion around the inability of a Ukraine win

I can't see any other realistic options to stop the deaths, I'm not sure there are any

Wonderingstar1 · 21/02/2025 08:14

All the people in America and the best they can come up with is someone who can barely come up with a coherent sentence. Just depressing really. Forget MAGA make the supposed leader of the Free World (or whatever you want to call it) articulate would be the better campaign/brain washing.

Herewegoagain29 · 21/02/2025 09:21

Trump is a realisation of MAGA, andthe failure of the Democratic party to support working class people.
Democrats have a coalition of the wealthy coastal collage educated elites, tech money and voters living below average wages, - underclass voters.

MAGA is a coalition of the working class and the middle class. Working class and middle class incomes have been falling drastically for the last 20 years and the elite wages have risen substantially.

The Republicans have been taken over by MAGA, they used to be Neo-con party, believing in foreign intervention through war, in fact George Bush was director of the CIA for a while, he started the war in Iraq which was a long term failure and the failed war in Afghanistan that cost the USA 2.3 trillion:
https://www.cia.gov/stories/story/george-h-w-bush-the-11th-director-of-central-intelligence/

MAGA is anti interventionist, anti war and that is likely to be the US policy for the next - at least 20 years whether Trump is there or not.
He is just doing their bidding- cutting the size of government, stopping illegal migration which surpresses working class wages, and not spending trillions on foreign wars is what he was elected to enact.

Trump fans, what are your thoughts now please?
BigMoonRising · 21/02/2025 12:25

Followthetrend · 21/02/2025 05:42

He was 'brainstorming' ideas for further discussion.

I think that's more productive than calling world leaders by their enemy's name or trying to sit on chairs that aren't there. 😁

Brainstorming? In the press room? I don’t think so. I really don’t.

It’s a low bar they have to meet in order to be American president these days.

Piggywaspushed · 21/02/2025 12:29

His 'brainstorming' also led to people taking his (dangerous) advice.

RafaistheKingofClay · 21/02/2025 19:12

MrsBennetsPoorNerves · 21/02/2025 00:10

A terribly inconvenient fact for Trump. I believe he rather admires Churchill.

Then again, he clearly admires Putin, so perhaps calling someone a dictator isn't actually an insult in his book at all. Perhaps it's simply what he is aspiring to himself.

He’s mentioned changing the constitution so that he can be elected for another term several times in the last few weeks. It’s definitely on his mind.

RafaistheKingofClay · 21/02/2025 19:14

Followthetrend · 21/02/2025 05:42

He was 'brainstorming' ideas for further discussion.

I think that's more productive than calling world leaders by their enemy's name or trying to sit on chairs that aren't there. 😁

Calling leaders by the wrong name or countries by the wrong name is so standard for Trump it never gets a mention. People stopped mentioning it partway through his first term. And definitely don’t look for the video of Trump trying to open a truck door.

It’s only an issue when Biden does it.

Followthetrend · 21/02/2025 19:26

BigMoonRising · 21/02/2025 12:25

Brainstorming? In the press room? I don’t think so. I really don’t.

It’s a low bar they have to meet in order to be American president these days.

Almost as low as the one for PM of UK.

That's why the present Cabinet are good at Limbo Dancing.......

BIossomtoes · 21/02/2025 20:08

Followthetrend · 21/02/2025 19:26

Almost as low as the one for PM of UK.

That's why the present Cabinet are good at Limbo Dancing.......

Not as good as the one that preceded it.

Princessconsuelabananahammock9 · 21/02/2025 20:44

Hamletscigar · 20/02/2025 08:00

I care about women and girls. I care about Clementine Breen, Chloe Cole, Elle Palmer, Laura Becker, Prisha Moseley, and many others like them. Who is this “we”? Are you not enough? Do you need your mob to back you? I see you.
Of course women and girls can get an abortion in their neighbouring states. That’s really not a big deal.
Mastectomies, hysterectomies, phalloplasties that don’t work, a lifetime of urinary incontinence and double incontinence are much more difficult challenges.
i see you @Fargo79

It really is a big deal. Your ignorance is staggering.

Princessconsuelabananahammock9 · 21/02/2025 20:50

Pregnant Texas teen died after three ER visits due to impact of abortion ban.

www.theguardian.com/us-news/2024/nov/01/teen-dies-abortion-ban-texas-neveah-crain

DuncinToffee · 21/02/2025 21:07

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/how-strict-abortion-bans-threaten-health-care-for-all-women-60-minutes/

The Supreme Court's landmark 2022 overturning of Roe v. Wade has had an impact on women's health beyond abortion, accelerating a gap in obstetrics and gynecological care in some states across the country.

Parker231 · 21/02/2025 21:18

Followthetrend · 21/02/2025 05:42

He was 'brainstorming' ideas for further discussion.

I think that's more productive than calling world leaders by their enemy's name or trying to sit on chairs that aren't there. 😁

Your talking about the same person who is now advocating ethnic cleansing in Gaza!!

Parker231 · 21/02/2025 21:21

EasternStandard · 21/02/2025 07:54

Of course, foreign powers are free to withdraw their support from Ukraine as they see fit.

The trouble is even Zelenskyy knows he can't continue without the US. So people may want him to take the decision but he needs funds to do that.

Since Putin invaded and up until last few months I was all in for funding a proxy war. Money only, not troops. But two things softened that strong view, the sheer number of deaths on all sides and the discussion around the inability of a Ukraine win

I can't see any other realistic options to stop the deaths, I'm not sure there are any

Easy way to stop further deaths - Putin pulls out of Ukrainian territory and stops bombing.

DuncinToffee · 21/02/2025 21:25

It's going well

https://edition.cnn.com/2025/02/21/investing/stock-market-dow-jones/index.html

Dow tumbles more than 700 points as inflation and tariff fears mount

EasternStandard · 21/02/2025 21:44

@Parker231 can you say more on how you'd get him to do that?

Parker231 · 21/02/2025 22:03

EasternStandard · 21/02/2025 21:44

@Parker231 can you say more on how you'd get him to do that?

Unfortunately Trump has thrown Ukraine under a bus and is now siding with Putin. Ukraine will probably have now lost their chance at NATO membership with the protection that would have brought them. Putin will have free rein to do what he wants in the region. Europe is less safe.