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Every one so up in arms about trump, but what about…

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admirible · 14/02/2025 19:59

  1. JFK supported by the mob who paid for him to come into power.
  2. JFK Cuban missile crisis.
  3. Clinton M impeachment not to mention starting strikes on irak to detract from it.
  4. Clinton F did not win the seats, Bernie did, the old guard of the party let down the voters,
  5. Biden senile couldn’t string a coherent sentence throughout term of office.
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MonotoneHerbivore · 14/02/2025 20:33

HaveYouTrumped · 14/02/2025 20:30

Op there will definitely be good things coming out of a trump government and thankfully there is access to far more balanced pragmatic and nuanced commentary in the papers and podcasts and radio etc

Unfortunately at the moment every time a trump thread starts you get screaming headless chickens attacking anyone they think supports Trump even if they don't but because they haven't said cunt bastard rapist... You support him

I've actually found the lack of trump threads on here frightening if there is a time to discuss it's now!
But one can see how people don't want to post with the shrieking chickens 🙄

What good things?

HaveYouTrumped · 14/02/2025 20:33

@MonotoneHerbivore wow in that case that must be a huge amount of uneducated people. What an embarrassment for the USA

MonotoneHerbivore · 14/02/2025 20:34

HaveYouTrumped · 14/02/2025 20:33

@MonotoneHerbivore wow in that case that must be a huge amount of uneducated people. What an embarrassment for the USA

You got it.

Rosie8880 · 14/02/2025 20:35

admirible · 14/02/2025 19:59

  1. JFK supported by the mob who paid for him to come into power.
  2. JFK Cuban missile crisis.
  3. Clinton M impeachment not to mention starting strikes on irak to detract from it.
  4. Clinton F did not win the seats, Bernie did, the old guard of the party let down the voters,
  5. Biden senile couldn’t string a coherent sentence throughout term of office.

Don’t look down - look up. Look at the best examples of leadership, that look after the vulnerable, bring people together and promote principles of peace, innovation and equality. Trump is divisive, reckless, potentially criminal. We do not in 21st C need a more or less dictator leading America.

Llttledrummergirl · 14/02/2025 20:36

Stealer · 14/02/2025 20:02

Where the fuck are all these Trump supporting threads coming from?

It appears that the Russian bots, and the Musk bots are in agreement that We've had the second coming of Christ and he goes by the name of Trump.

We should all worship in glory and take the robes of the MAGA.

That way Putin will walk into Europe, starting with Ukraine.

GreekDogRescue · 14/02/2025 20:37

menopausalfart · 14/02/2025 20:08

The orange facist is all of them on steroids and without their intelligence.

seek help for your Trump Derangement Syndrome 👻

Adelstrop · 14/02/2025 20:37

admirible · 14/02/2025 19:59

  1. JFK supported by the mob who paid for him to come into power.
  2. JFK Cuban missile crisis.
  3. Clinton M impeachment not to mention starting strikes on irak to detract from it.
  4. Clinton F did not win the seats, Bernie did, the old guard of the party let down the voters,
  5. Biden senile couldn’t string a coherent sentence throughout term of office.

The Cuban missile crisis was an act of aggression by the Soviet Union, which Kennedy handled in a truly statesmanlike way. The hawks in his government would have had him invade Cuba, not knowing the strength of the deployment of missiles and troops; nor were they to know that Khrushchev was bluffing. The US was not innocent in the whole affair, the Bay of Pigs was an outrageous (and incompetent) invasion of a sovereign state, and of course, the US had missiles stationed in Turkey which threatened the Soviet Union, but I cannot see how anyone could claim that Kennedy handled the situation badly. I am not sure history will look kindly on the present incumbent of the White House.

TooBigForMyBoots · 14/02/2025 20:37

MonotoneHerbivore · 14/02/2025 20:33

What good things?

Very excellent, bigly great good things.

PlanetJanette · 14/02/2025 20:37

MargaretThursday · 14/02/2025 20:09

Why does it matter so much to Trump supporters that Mumsnet of all places should agree that he is not that bad.
Trump needs mothers mostly from the UK to support him to make him feel better? Why on earth would he care? Why do his supporters care?

I mean would anyone think there was any point going on a mostly US website to get them to say that the Labour/Tory/Random UK person wasn't making a hash of it?
Surely there would be better places to try and drum up support.

His supporters (as in the dupes who voted for him) don’t.

On the other hand, international actors who want the rest of the west to fall to the same approach do need to perpetuate the myth that Trumps not so bad. Because then it will be much easier for them to try and swing an election for Reform so that Ukraine loses another ally.

GreekDogRescue · 14/02/2025 20:38

MonotoneHerbivore · 14/02/2025 20:33

What good things?

Banning men from women’s sports.
Unless this is something you support?

HowardTJMoon · 14/02/2025 20:39

Kickingmyshoesoff · 14/02/2025 20:30

The world leaders seeking expansion of NATO and EU influence into Ukraine.

I assume that's a reply to me. Which world leaders? What do you think their motivation was? Do you think that's why Putin decided to invade Ukraine? What about when Putin decided to annex Crimea in 2014? Was that about NATO/EU influence or something else?

Over40Overdating · 14/02/2025 20:39

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nearlylovemyusername · 14/02/2025 20:40

Kickingmyshoesoff · 14/02/2025 20:25

The Ukraine war would never have happened if we had sensible world leaders that weren't on a power trip expanding influence in Ukraine and hoping Russia didn't take bait.

Really? are you another russian bot?

Putin attacked on 24th Feb of 2022 - the world only just started recovering and opening after covid, who in the West cared about Ukraine at that time?!?!

Do you know anything about Orange revolution in Ukraine? in 2004 when people were desperate to join EU?

What you say is taken from russian propaganda book. No country ever has a right to invade another independent country which is trying to chose own way.

HowardTJMoon · 14/02/2025 20:40

GreekDogRescue · 14/02/2025 20:37

seek help for your Trump Derangement Syndrome 👻

Orange fan sad 🙁

user9876543211 · 14/02/2025 20:40

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I wouldn't look in FWR if I were you

HaveYouTrumped · 14/02/2025 20:41

Oh my god I can't believe people think this utter crap.

@MargaretThursday some people have a very high view of the power of an on line chat forum, one among thousands.

It's bizzare.

Maybe it's that sense if huge self importance that they are on it therefore.. It's powerful and would attract Russian bots..
Maybe they are the bloody bots for some strange organisation shouting down anyone wanting to discuss trump!

Judgejudysno1fan · 14/02/2025 20:42

Sampler · 14/02/2025 20:07

Wise up op

Please tell me you're Irish!

MonotoneHerbivore · 14/02/2025 20:44

TooBigForMyBoots · 14/02/2025 20:37

Very excellent, bigly great good things.

He knows some terrific people doing some terrific things. They had some terrific concepts of plans! Not AP News though, they aren’t allowed to come and play at the White House anymore because they didn’t like his terrific name change for the bigly Gulf of America!

MonotoneHerbivore · 14/02/2025 20:47

HaveYouTrumped · 14/02/2025 20:41

Oh my god I can't believe people think this utter crap.

@MargaretThursday some people have a very high view of the power of an on line chat forum, one among thousands.

It's bizzare.

Maybe it's that sense if huge self importance that they are on it therefore.. It's powerful and would attract Russian bots..
Maybe they are the bloody bots for some strange organisation shouting down anyone wanting to discuss trump!

Maybe they are the bloody bots for some strange organisation shouting down anyone wanting to discuss trump!

Breaking news, he got voted in as the president of the United States. His supporters are obviously not a minority being shouted down. Hopefully you’ll feel better now you don’t have to worry about that.

Llttledrummergirl · 14/02/2025 20:47

HaveYouTrumped · 14/02/2025 20:41

Oh my god I can't believe people think this utter crap.

@MargaretThursday some people have a very high view of the power of an on line chat forum, one among thousands.

It's bizzare.

Maybe it's that sense if huge self importance that they are on it therefore.. It's powerful and would attract Russian bots..
Maybe they are the bloody bots for some strange organisation shouting down anyone wanting to discuss trump!

Security alerts, experience and the fact they are clearly so evangelical about their script they are incapable of having a conversation.

Oioisavaloy27 · 14/02/2025 20:47

Stealer · 14/02/2025 20:02

Where the fuck are all these Trump supporting threads coming from?

Probably the Russians!

MonotoneHerbivore · 14/02/2025 20:48

Oioisavaloy27 · 14/02/2025 20:47

Probably the Russians!

I don’t know, I’ve had a few people in real life try to spout this stuff. I think they have a dodgy algorithm because it all seems to be the same bollocks. The algorithm is probably giving them bot stuff from Russia though!

Stealer · 14/02/2025 20:49

GreekDogRescue · 14/02/2025 20:38

Banning men from women’s sports.
Unless this is something you support?

Because that's all you care about?

HowardTJMoon · 14/02/2025 20:50

PlanetJanette · 14/02/2025 20:37

His supporters (as in the dupes who voted for him) don’t.

On the other hand, international actors who want the rest of the west to fall to the same approach do need to perpetuate the myth that Trumps not so bad. Because then it will be much easier for them to try and swing an election for Reform so that Ukraine loses another ally.

Well exactly. There are mountains of evidence that Russia is employing its FSB-backed bot farms and human resources to shift political views across the west. There are innumerable memes and talking points that can be traced back to Russian influence. There's a bunch of US podcast hosts that were exposed as repeating Russian talking points for money. Russia is pouring vast resources into changing Western political opinions. Russia helped finance and influence MAGA. It helped finance and influence Brexit. It's helping to finance/influence a multitude of similar efforts across the West and elsewhere.

Putin has realised that Russia hasn't got the money, argument or sufficient sober people to counter the West in arms, technology or ideology. It's a shitty country with shitty politics and shitty prospects. All it can do is subvert the West from the inside. And the most terrifying thing is that it's working.

Stealer · 14/02/2025 20:50

TooBigForMyBoots · 14/02/2025 20:37

Very excellent, bigly great good things.

WTF is bigly? Is it FWR cliquely shit?

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