So much for the Trump Bounce

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All is promises at the before the election...now he says he can't promise anything. Stock market has nose dived and NATO are sending troops to Greenland because of his threats, the people of Gaza are being told to leave to go no one knows because Trump was it as a holiday destination.

He's pulled out of the climate treaty, the world health organisation and now imposed sanctions on the ICC.

I dispair and despise the Americans who voted this man in because we now have to deal with the consequences of the fallout of that man.

Have to assume that they’re impressed by the very fact he says the (previously thought to be) unsayable and, not analysing further, assume he’s ‘telling it like it is’ and therefore admirable.

Comments in favour of Trump always comes down on the side of being impressed by his bombast. “At least he’s getting stuff done, unlike our lot.” Yes, easy to get stuff done - or sound like you are - when you have no regard for the consequences and or little things like the rule of law.

Yes no one takes accountability for their actions it seems

Not all and probably not you if you live in the west but a whole bunch of people are already at risk and the dying has already started.

“I love you. Get out – you gotta get out and vote. In four years, you don’t have to vote again. We’ll have it fixed so good, you’re not gonna have to vote.”

This was said during the campaign in 2020. It’s was highlighting the importance of the people’s vote. The fact they had to get out and vote just one time and that’s would be it for four years. That after that he’d have America is such a good place (you remember it was Covid at the time) they’d fix that problem. And that would be it. The Republicans would be popular for good.
He was appealing to people to vote that one time who might not normally vote - that’s how important their vote was for that 2020 election.

He has never ever implied that he would get rid of elections or people’s right to vote and we are yet to see plans for that. I don’t think we will and I doubt The Guardian really does either.

Aw, diddums. I object to people thinking that a religion should have any bearing on how a country is governed.

It’s interesting though that you feel it’s completely fine to disparage Christianity

Yet, you are probably on the prescribed bandwagon to be outraged of any criticism of Islam

Why is that?

Wrong. Like any religion, both are a load of rubbish, based on daft ideas a few people espoused many centuries ago. Believe whatever you like about an omnipresent sky daddy, but don’t think for a moment that he should get to decide about abortions or homosexuality or anything else.

Right. And we can’t solve the world’s problems.

Also, we are no longer an influence. We look foolish and weak.

We are in a fortunate position to live in the West, but an unfortunate position of living in the UK, where we will soon be living like the third world. Whilst the rest of the world thrives and prospers.

And in 2030, nothing will have happened.

I expect we’ll be told by the mad people in charge of a revised date or a revised environmental issue, to terrify us into giving them more money though.

@hamstersarse I'm not anti Christian. I dentist as Christian myself. But there is a type of Christian nationalism allied with an aggressive conservative ideology that's fanatically anti women's choice, anti LGBT, anti civil rights. It's not Christian values as I understand them.

@Needmilkandbread I'm aware of the difference between civil and criminal law hence why I agreed. He's not a convicted sex offender. Just one with a lot of allegations

But he was convicted of 34 felonies. Regardless of how you choose to minimise that. He's not fit for that office and shameless apologists on here who also distort and misrepresent the truth deserve him

Well you did describe him as a convicted sex offender? So if you knew that, why did you call him it?

Also the 34 felon charges were for 34 payments to Stormy Daniels, and like you probably also know, is really all the same thing, but the sound bite of 34 is much more damaging

Do you hold the same disdain for the entirety of Islam who are literally against LGBTQ and women’s rights?

When a penalty is financial, as it often is in a civil court, there is often scepticism and civil convictions are unlikely to impact people’s views in the same way a criminal conviction would.

Regardless, the ability to run a country is not tied to the outcomes of the civil case. Regardless of whether you believe he is morally fit to be president, he is doing what he has been voted in to do and America will prosper much more than it did under the previous administration. That may in the American’s eyes, make him perfectly fit to be president.

Yes it’s a shame we left the EU really. It’s good to be in a bloc against other superpowers.

Climate change is happening and it’s going to affect us and our children.

I am so glad not to be in the EU. One look at Germany, and I know I made the right decision when I voted to leave.

Climate change is always happening and is not important. I would like more focus placed on litter control and waste in our rivers. This country is disgusting.

He can’t stand again unless he tries to change the law and that one’s probably past even his ego, the real danger probably lies in the likes of Musk standing at the next election

This is his second term. It’s not as if people didn’t know what they were voting for. They knew exactly what he was like and that’s what they wanted. And his supporters will be delighted with what he has done so far.

Possibly because anyone who followed the actual teaching of Jesus would NOT support Trump’s presidency.

Litter and waste in our rivers is all part of the same environmental issue. We need to care about the environment.

That wasn’t the objection, it was that ‘fundamental right Christian’s’ support him

It was anti Christian rhetoric

We're actually taking in fewer migrants than most other countries in Europe. Don't let the facts get in the way, will you?

It was fact.

Yet he keeps bringing the subject up. Only a few days ago, in Washington, he said "“I want to be here with you, and I have to be here with you, and I do that despite the fact that they say I can't run again". In Las Vegas, he said “It will be the greatest honour of my life to serve not once but twice – or three or four times.” When it was suggested that the law would prevent him serving a third term, his response was a sarcastic "Oooooh". And a Republican representative has filed for an amendment to the constitution to allow it.

Despite mn, they probably are.

He said it in July last year. 🤷‍♀️