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Women of MN - What do you like about Trump?

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ShinyTime · 06/11/2024 09:37

He couldn’t have been voted in without the support of women. As a non-Trump fan myself, I’m wondering what is it you like about him? This applies to non-US voters who favour him and would vote for him if possible.

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Thefaceofboe · 06/11/2024 17:30

LeoOakley · 06/11/2024 16:25

Unfortunately there are no circumstances in which I can be okay with a baby being killed even where the mother’s life is in danger.

Stunned. A cluster of cells matters more than a woman's life. @batt3nb3rg

These attitudes are so deeply disturbing.

I am saddened by women feeling this way.

I am relieved I live in Europe with my daughters.

Me too. How utterly grim to think this way and admit it

GrammarTeacher · 06/11/2024 17:30

Frowningprovidence · 06/11/2024 17:24

I'm British not American and I don't really have a full view of American politics.

I also agree young men turned out in record numbers and swing the vote, but some women must support him.

Trying to find positives

Last time he was in power a lot of wars that were brewing didn't happen and I didn't like the way Biden pulled out of Afghanistan.

I also felt that all that crap about Biden being fine health wise would have made my distrustful of that party.

My understanding is trumps ideas on immigration and taxation are very popular with working poor.

I dont think I would have voted for him as lots of his policies don't chime with my world view

It's also fair that just because I think abortion is a women's rights issue, plenty of women in the states are religious. I mean there's all those amish, Mormons and lots more catholics than England.

The withdrawal from Afghanistan and how it was handled actually lies at the feet of both Republicans and Democrats.

So not just Biden. Trump wasn't a great peacemaker by any stretch of the imagination.

mathanxiety · 06/11/2024 17:33

Sethera · 06/11/2024 17:08

It baffles me that a criminal awaiting sentencing can be elected as president of the USA.

I can't claim knowledge of all his policies but I disagree with the headline ones, anti-abortion, death penalty, defence.

They are not really his policies. They are the hooks dangled in front of the electorate.

His policy is as he stated in his victory speech - to remake the federal government.

The Health and Human Services dept and its agencies - the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention, the National Institutes of Health, and the Food and Drug Administration - are all in the crosshairs, as is the US Dept of Agriculture, which is the agency running food stamps and school meals. The ACA is in grave danger - affordable healthcare for millions is on the line.

The creeping influence - the power grab - of Elon Musk is something everyone should be terrified of. He is the real winner of this election, and has been very vocal about dismantling the federal workforce and the agencies, enriching himself beyond imagination, and Trump has welcomed him into the centre of the fold.

mathanxiety · 06/11/2024 17:39

SnakesAndArrows · 06/11/2024 17:17

He doesn’t care about abortion enough to want it to be legal or illegal, because it doesn’t affect him personally. And possibly because he doesn’t think the law applies to him. Which perhaps now it doesn’t.

But he does want women to be punished for having an abortion, whether it’s legal or not. Because he doesn’t care about the law, or women.

Excellent comment.

He appeals strongly to people who don't care about women and who believe the law is only there to hold them back.

IMustDoMoreExercise · 06/11/2024 17:39

I don't think may people (men or women) like Trump, they had to vote for him because they did not like some of the extreme left views of the Democrats.

dollybird · 06/11/2024 17:44

IMustDoMoreExercise · 06/11/2024 17:39

I don't think may people (men or women) like Trump, they had to vote for him because they did not like some of the extreme left views of the Democrats.

I don't think the Dems are anything like extreme left. More, a bit left of the Republicans.

crumblingschools · 06/11/2024 17:44

@batt3nb3rg why homeschooling the norm? Who do you expect to do that?

crumblingschools · 06/11/2024 17:45

There is nothing in Trump that I like

HecatesBees · 06/11/2024 17:46

batt3nb3rg · 06/11/2024 14:25

No, I’m obviously not okay with that, but I don’t see that that is an inevitable consequence of abortion not being available, as care for a naturally occurring miscarriage, or spontaneous abortion, is not the same as a medically induced abortion. Unfortunately there are no circumstances in which I can be okay with a baby being killed even where the mother’s life is in danger. If a woman will die or be seriously harmed if she remains pregnant, labour should be induced, the baby delivered, and given every chance to survive if past viability. If the baby was killed first, it would still need to be delivered, whether vaginally or by c-section.

As to your other points - I did already say I disagree with Trump. The post asked for what women like about him, so I listed everything that I see as a positive and then concluded I wouldn’t vote for him because his headlining economic policy is lunacy.

Unfortunately there are no circumstances in which I can be okay with a baby being killed even where the mother’s life is in danger. If a woman will die or be seriously harmed if she remains pregnant, labour should be induced, the baby delivered, and given every chance to survive if past viability. If the baby was killed first, it would still need to be delivered, whether vaginally or by c-section.

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FrostFlowers2025 · 06/11/2024 17:48

What's to like?

He has no policies. He doesn't care about anyone or anything, except himself. His so called opinions are all fluff, recommended by his advisers so he would have something to say when on stage. Even then he can barely get the words out and can't remember what he was supposed to talk about, even when asked a direct question.

The reason "his opinions" are not at the tip of his tongue is because they are not at the forefront of his mind. With him what you see/hear is what you get, a head full of saw dust. Those who can't see it are willfully ignorant.

Trump is a true grandiose narcissist. The only reason he even went to that McDonald's kitchen is because he could not handle that Harris was getting props for having worked at a McDonalds once.

Did people forget that he literally shoved people out of the way for foto ops? Or that he had the secret service do it for him?

30percent · 06/11/2024 17:50

I like that he'd be a lot tougher on immigration than the democrats are.

I'm not a massive fan of him though he acts like a complete clown sometimes haha

soupfiend · 06/11/2024 17:50

Whats wrong with immigration?

blackrabbitwhiterabbit · 06/11/2024 17:51

Well, this is depressing as hell. #slitswriststhatwomensupportembryosratherthanexistingwomen

HecatesBees · 06/11/2024 17:52

LettuceSpray · 06/11/2024 16:17

@batt3nb3rg could you quote where Trump says he is anti abortion? I don't think he has explicitly said anything one way or the other. Melania, however, has explicitly said she supports a woman's right to choose. It seems an odd issue for you to mention as a reason to support Trump.

https://www.pbs.org/newshour/live-update/election-news-2024/where-trump-stands-on-abortion

Nov 5, 2024 9:05 PM EST
Where Trump stands on abortion
By Erica R. Hendry
During his 2016 presidential campaign, Donald Trump said “you have to ban” abortion and advocated for “some form of punishment” for women who get illegal abortions. A major part of his campaign platform in 2016 was to appoint Supreme Court justices to overturn Roe, which became reality in 2022.
In 2024, Trump has said in interviews that states with abortion bans have a right to monitor pregnancies and prosecute violations. The former president is also open to restricting access to abortion pills, like mifepristone.
Trump has pledged to:
Veto a 15-week national abortion ban, which multiple members of his party and the anti-abortion movement support.
Allow states to restrict abortion access.

Where Harris and Trump stand on abortion access and reproductive rights

Two years ago, the Supreme Court decision overturning Roe v. Wade made abortion access a top political issue across America. In the race for the White House, Laura Barrón-López has been following both candidates' positions on reproductive rights.

https://www.pbs.org/newshour/show/where-harris-and-trump-stand-on-abortion-access-and-reproductive-rights

mathanxiety · 06/11/2024 17:52

Frowningprovidence · 06/11/2024 17:24

I'm British not American and I don't really have a full view of American politics.

I also agree young men turned out in record numbers and swing the vote, but some women must support him.

Trying to find positives

Last time he was in power a lot of wars that were brewing didn't happen and I didn't like the way Biden pulled out of Afghanistan.

I also felt that all that crap about Biden being fine health wise would have made my distrustful of that party.

My understanding is trumps ideas on immigration and taxation are very popular with working poor.

I dont think I would have voted for him as lots of his policies don't chime with my world view

It's also fair that just because I think abortion is a women's rights issue, plenty of women in the states are religious. I mean there's all those amish, Mormons and lots more catholics than England.

It's protestant fundamentalists who are more likely to be anti abortion. There are very few Amish. Catholics are quite divided on abortion. The LDS church opposes abortion but with exceptions for deformity, life of mother in danger, rape, and incest.

Zonder · 06/11/2024 17:53

XChrome · 06/11/2024 17:10

Thanks although that's just saying IF they become illegal. It's not saying he himself is anti abortion. I'm just trying to work out why so many fundamental Christians think he's the Christian ticket and it always seems to come down to abortion and not anything to do with Jesus.

blackrabbitwhiterabbit · 06/11/2024 17:53

Do you like that Trump is a racist or did I mean rapist?

Frowningprovidence · 06/11/2024 17:56

mathanxiety · 06/11/2024 17:52

It's protestant fundamentalists who are more likely to be anti abortion. There are very few Amish. Catholics are quite divided on abortion. The LDS church opposes abortion but with exceptions for deformity, life of mother in danger, rape, and incest.

Fair enough.

What I am suggesting is there are more actively religious people than we seem to have in England so this will be influencing thier voting more than it might here.

frostyfingers · 06/11/2024 17:57

I think perhaps we should turn this into "why did Kamala Harris not win?". What was so bad about her policies that people voted for Trump instead? To me as an outsider nothing on earth would persuade me to vote for him, but there must be something about her/her party that put people off.

mathanxiety · 06/11/2024 17:59

30percent · 06/11/2024 17:50

I like that he'd be a lot tougher on immigration than the democrats are.

I'm not a massive fan of him though he acts like a complete clown sometimes haha

I'm not sure what "tougher on immigration" would mean. Do you think he has any specific ideas?

Lentilweaver · 06/11/2024 18:01

mathanxiety · 06/11/2024 17:59

I'm not sure what "tougher on immigration" would mean. Do you think he has any specific ideas?

Yes. Lock up the dogs and cats.
While he sells the country to Musk ( also an immigrant).

XChrome · 06/11/2024 18:02

Simonjt · 06/11/2024 17:09

Thats the point, remember women aren’t people, they are merely machines to raise children and to be raped at their husbands will.

Yep. Wanting the death penalty for rapists (and possibly shoplifters) but being happy that a rapist is President exemplifies the batshittery and hypocrisy of these people. They think they are tough on crime, yet they elect a criminal with multiple indictments for serious crimes.
Maternal mortality up 62% in anti-abortion states and infant mortality is up 13%. They have no problem with killing women and children. They don't care in the least.
People like this are their own karma though. They have to live inside the screaming void of their heads, which is a terrible fate indeed.

crumblingschools · 06/11/2024 18:03

Aren’t most people in America immigrants?

BIossomtoes · 06/11/2024 18:04

ThisZippyDenimGoose · 06/11/2024 17:29

I personally think people have had enough of identity politics and just want politicians to get on with dealing with the very real life problems in front of us and this might be a bit of wake up call.

Abortion is a very important subject for women of childbearing age but the people it doesn’t directly affect are most probably more invested in things like the economy and fuel prices etc.

It’s not just women of childbearing age, it’s women of all ages. As a second wave feminist who was so, so pleased when it was decriminalised here when I was a teenager, I’ve always seen a woman’s right to choose to be as fundamental to women’s rights as equal pay or maternity rights. I was appalled when Roe v Wade was overturned, it’s a tragedy for American women and a victory for misogyny.