Kemi Badenoch elected as Tory leader

[Locutus2000]

This will be entertaining.

I missed the bit where I said that. Probably because nobody said that.

Students go home, as do their families. In any case the idea is to stop illegal trafficking and migrants.

Well Labour intend to do f* all about it.

Is it ever ok for any briton of colour to have an opinion on immigration other than “more please”? Genuine question, because the logical conclusion is that I should be in favour of open borders as no-one should be denied entry because I benefited.

It’s a bit upsetting to be told that I should really adhere to a set of principles because the circumstances of my birth and my race means that if I don’t it’s somehow a betrayal of my ancestors. I didn’t choose where or to whom I was born. All I can do is consider whether a given policy is good or bad for my country as things stand today.

I do understand what you are saying but it means that we can never criticise things we have at some point benefited from. You can personally benefit from low taxes but also believe that higher taxation would be better, or be treated by the NHS with a good outcome and still believe it needs reform.

You can benefit from immigration but also believe immigration should be selective and controlled. And as I said no-one is talking about zero immigration and no-one is talking about open borders. There will be differences between the parties on numbers etc but I think the idea of “anti-immigration” is the wrong one, no-one is actually calling for no immigration, it would be impractical.

Yes dear.

Totally agree

Can you point me to their action plan ‘dear’?

I agree with this. Does Kemi need to say we mustn't have any controls?

It's not practical so clearly not.

As for the current asylum system it's not working as a system and people are dying weekly in the channel.

Make your mind up!

Over 3m HK can come here if they wish (Cons even changed the law to enable them to do so....) , similar numbers from Afghanistan and 44m form Ukraine...... should Russia win, which Badenoch would want as she supports Trump..... who defo wants Russia to win and who wants out of NATO....

what a great PM she'll make!!

The pp didn't answer but why do you think she doesn't have intellectual ability?

Bloody well said, bravo 👏

Keir is going to smash the gangs.

And I for one am very much looking forward to said smashing!

Your post is too ridiculous to reply to. 44m Ukrainians coming here?! Please. You are discrediting yourself.

We have to stop economic migration - those arriving illegally should be immediately deported after checks, if we still want to offer refuge to real refugees! We can NOT continue as we are, most people know that.

The Tories and Badenoch has been part of this, have been in for 14 years, they've done absolutely zilch to control numbers, infact in recent years have opened up student, worker and family visas.

No one can accuse KB Sunak Braverman etc of pulling any draw bridge up behind her!!! they went and built a few extra bridges....

Keir is fond of a lot of hot air and posturing but has no actual plan.

October is the highest month this year, plus greater risk of death

Not going well.

No, you said we should welcome fleeing Ukrainians, what number would you stop at?
Very few of the 44m in Ukraine are going to stay there under Putin....

You Tories have actively encouraged economic migration, inc Badenoch.

Deport x channel migrants to where exactly? France wont have them back and neither will most other countries, thats assuming there are even air links to these places..... you re the one discrediting yourself with silly ill thought out comments.

It might be possible to overlook the criminals openly trafficking people and children this month, if Labour had a solid and credible plan to activate to stop this madness but no, They plan to talk to France! Well good luck with that - such a naive and pitiful response. Meanwhile their plan to cut numbers is absolutely non existent!

The housing crisis continues to worsen, the hospital list continues to grow and we are all suffering, and it’s not a good feeling knowing things are going to get even worse under Labour undoubtedly. More deaths, more pressure, no control, it’s infuriating.

I am wondering what state we’d have to get to, for the left to say that they’ve had enough uncontrolled immigration?

It’s quite insane to allow thousands of people to enter the UK everyday, especially without any checks or tests.

So that you can compare it to the Tories' plan that was so effective? 🤣

Well I did see a party knee deep in court action doing their best.

We should have somewhere to deport them to if they’ve ’lost’ their documents. Somewhere like Rwanda perhaps?

Anywhere that would deter them from bothering to come to the UK.

The Rwanda scheme was a very expensive failure. Why are you focusing on 3% of immigrants into the UK?

In fairness Labour did everything in their power to stop the Tories from being able to get Rwanda off the ground and running.
Who knows if it could have been a deterrent? We’ll never know now.

What we do know however, is that Labours plan sucks and the problem is only growing.

I like her but she may end up being a caretaker leader since it will be a long time until the next General Election