Kemi Badenoch elected as Tory leader

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This will be entertaining.

Starmer's dad worked in a factory as a toolmaker. His mum was a nurse.

I doubt it, she’s been consistently popular with the grassroots tories for a while now. She isn’t there as a token and it’s a crappy thing to say about someone who has just won leadership of her party. Perhaps she earned her place amongst her peers. It’s just racism to assume positive discrimination or tokenism rather than that she won her race fair and square. No party elects a leader other than for the reason that they think a) they are competent b) they can win.

You don’t have to share her political beliefs to think that. The racism aimed at right wing women of colour is vile.

Are you serious? Have you forgotten the nicknames that Boris Johnson, Cameron, Sunak, Theresa May and many other conservatives have been given over the years. I'm old enough to remember Margaret Thatcher "Milk Snatcher".

Congratulations to Labour for their reelection.

It's women's rights and that's not why she won

How are Labour doing atm? I think they've lost their entire lead already

Fair enough and sorry for the 'come on' comment. I was trying to give you credit because so many other Kemi supporters on here have just resorted to insults and you haven't. However, it is difficult when you state that she didn't run on policies when formulating and potentially enacting viable policies is the main purpose of the role.
I have started listening to her interview with the Telegraph and will watch the rest of it later.
I'm afraid that winning races means nothing. The cream simply does not rise to the top nowadays. Most of the people wanting to get to the top in politics are simply using it as a stepping stone to making multi millions.

This Labour government is already so unpopular that I can’t see it doing two terms. I read in the press that a farmer has already commited suicide off the back of the new IHT policy. Once they’ve killed a bunch of farmers and bumped off some old people to the cold they’ll be well on their way to being as popular as Boris post-Covid.

Next!

Ah a nuanced and errudite response.

These are literally the type of views that Kemi herself has expressed!

There's a huge amount of evidence that proves improving conditions for employees benefits organisations in terms of staff retention. It improves profits and stock market returns i.e. good for the economy.

Things Labour want to change e.g. Zero Hours Contracts have a terribly detrimental impact on employees lives.

Change is needed, especially now when so many companies are struggling to recruit and retain staff.

I’m sure I recall the Labour Party saying on many occasions during the last parliament that they had no need or wish to present policies. I’m fairly sure I recall quite a few posters on here saying the same, with approval.

I may be wrong.

I’d be perfectly happy to have a constructively critical leader of the opposition, with few detailed policy commitments for a long time.

The first constructively critical things that Badenoch could do would be to welcome the WFA cut as sensible welfare pruning and wish the government well in combatting welfare fraud. There’s plenty of opposing to do elsewhere.

No-one has a clear policy platform they have a narrative in a leadership race. They may have one or two things they say they want to do but the policy platform is for an election. Electing a leader is different. You are trying to convince people you are a good fit to lead. You aren’t trying to convince floating voters.

Leadership race vs election are very different things. I imagine it’s similar in a Labour leadership race.

Crikey- I came to say the opposite! Just read the first page of the thread expecting the usual trendy knee-jerk Tory bashing, and it seems that we have a grown-up thread instead.
So, I agree we have an alternate universe and one populated by adults for a change.
Not sure what you mean by skew right anyway- do you refer to someone who believes a man has no place in a female changing room? Or perhaps someone who has concerns about mass immigration from countries and cultures that would "dispense" with gay people/oppress women? Someone who simply questions any country's economic ability to support continuous immigration alongside its own population? Perhaps you mean someone who is utterly sickened by the Saturday hate marches and the damp squib responses in msm to October 7th in general? Perhaps someone who questions our current two tier policing system which is heftily skewed against the white working class?
I'm thrilled by Kemi's appointment.

i think there will be some clear water between the two parties at the next election at any rate. I’ll be interested to see what she does.

I read in the press that a farmer has already committed suicide off the back of the new IHT policy

Really? Do you have a link? It seems fast for some poor soul to die since Wednesday afternoon and a post mortem to take place. Not to mention the possibility of an inquest.

They do and they still will have.... dismiss a poor worker correctly and there is no risk of an unfair dismissal claim, why shouldn't a woman get enhanced maternity rights? we've a super low birth rate as it is....

Sick pay? its only to be able to get £93 per week (or the employers alternative scheme, no one is going to swing the lead for that.....

There is also going to be enshrined a probation period too.

I know but I can't make policies up, she really did explain at one point why she was not putting them forward and she was reasonable and rational imo

I think she is a good candidate who has risen to this position despite many who probably underestimate her as she doesn't fit an established mould

She talks about why she wants to do this which I thought convincing too

My concern is that our youngest workers are currently some of our least productive, with highest levels of unemployment (although I also appreciate many will be students).

However, having worked with younger people, they are more likely to take time off sick etc.

I think that there is some risk that certain groups could take advantage of additional workers rights, at the expense of business. Which is why I mentioned previously that I was quite happy for some rights to not kick in until a set time had passed etc.

I am not against workers rights, but I also think some of the changes look to be bad for business, especially small business and therefore could be bad for the economy.

I guess we will see!

Thank you. I heard Political Thinking last week which what I assume you are referring to, and yes, always an interesting listen that deals in back ground etc. However Savingthehedgehogs advised another poster to listen to a R4 to find out what Kami Badenoch's policies were. I have been struggling to locate it and was hoping that Savingthehedgehogs would* *share the programme details. I have asked nicely twice.

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“No party elects a leader other than for the reason that they think a) they are competent b) they can win.”

Yeah. Errmm, that Liz Truss was good wasn’t she?

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@Zonder

"You'd think she would have a little more sympathy for other people coming here for asylum, wouldn't you?"

She already had a British passport before coming to the UK for her education, so definitely legal and not even an immigrant, just a UK national coming to the UK.

What?

She is the lurch to the right.

I don't think she's put a policy statement together yet.

If Rayner were a tory MP who had risen to Deputy PM with her history, they would be cheering her to the rafters.

Lee Anderson springs to mind.