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EverythingAllatOnceAllTheTime · 12/09/2024 08:54

No questions the Tories were bad, but Labour are on another level.

Are you still happy you voted them in? Be honest now, you are having your doubts aren’t you?

If not, you really should be.

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DejaTu · 19/09/2024 11:57

iwishihadknownmore · 19/09/2024 11:55

So it must be that the Tories hate anyone who has succeeded as they have increased tax rates to levels not seen since WW2.

The envious bastards.

I don’t recognise that description.

Nor do I subscribe to hate.

EasternStandard · 19/09/2024 11:57

iwishihadknownmore · 19/09/2024 11:55

So it must be that the Tories hate anyone who has succeeded as they have increased tax rates to levels not seen since WW2.

The envious bastards.

So it must be that the Tories hate anyone who has succeeded as they have increased tax rates to levels not seen since WW2.

Is tax decreasing or increasing with Labour?

They'll have the lovely award of the highest since WW2

EasternStandard · 19/09/2024 11:58

iwishihadknownmore · 19/09/2024 11:52

Its also quite inaccurate, NZ hasn't CGT, it taxes unearned income exactly the same as earned.

Yes I wouldn't pick NZ out of all options

BIossomtoes · 19/09/2024 12:00

DejaTu · 19/09/2024 11:57

I don’t recognise that description.

Nor do I subscribe to hate.

It doesn’t matter whether you recognise it or not. Taxation is the highest it’s been in over 70 years. The Tories did that.

EasternStandard · 19/09/2024 12:01

And it's going up again

Labour are doing that. Highest since WW2 award for them.

Araminta1003 · 19/09/2024 12:03

FFS of course the pound is rising right now against the USD, they just cut rates!

1dayatatime · 19/09/2024 12:03

@iwishihadknownmore

Just looking at NZ tax rates and given that dividends taxed are at 33% and the same as the $70k to $180k income tax bracket then it's beyond me why would anyone set up their own business in NZ ??

So you risk your capital investment and potential bankruptcy in a company that may or may not be a success. And if it is a success after all that risk then you get taxed at exactly the same rate as if you were employed in a nice safe salaried employment.

It would be completely illogical for anyone to set up their own business in NZ.

iwishihadknownmore · 19/09/2024 12:08

1dayatatime · 19/09/2024 12:03

@iwishihadknownmore

Just looking at NZ tax rates and given that dividends taxed are at 33% and the same as the $70k to $180k income tax bracket then it's beyond me why would anyone set up their own business in NZ ??

So you risk your capital investment and potential bankruptcy in a company that may or may not be a success. And if it is a success after all that risk then you get taxed at exactly the same rate as if you were employed in a nice safe salaried employment.

It would be completely illogical for anyone to set up their own business in NZ.

Ask the OP on that thread who said NZ is a great place for low taxes and the UK is about to go down the pan?
Or ask the pp on here who held up that thread for why people are supposedly leaving the UK and then said they are some financial wizard?

Efacsen · 19/09/2024 12:33

There have been 1 or 2 interesting threads recently about emigrating to NZ - 'Mumsnetters' are relentlessly negative about it tho' financial reasons haven't really featured much in the previous ones

DejaTu · 19/09/2024 12:52

Araminta1003 · 19/09/2024 12:03

FFS of course the pound is rising right now against the USD, they just cut rates!

I love it how the wannabe Islington crowd on here
think everything is premised on the Labour divided.

Talk about spin - Mandy would be proud.

’Wewishyouhadknownmoretoo’

DejaTu · 19/09/2024 13:00

BIossomtoes · 19/09/2024 12:00

It doesn’t matter whether you recognise it or not. Taxation is the highest it’s been in over 70 years. The Tories did that.

Is this an attempt at humour?

iwishihadknownmore · 19/09/2024 13:02

Araminta1003 · 19/09/2024 12:03

FFS of course the pound is rising right now against the USD, they just cut rates!

FFS indeed, the £ has been doing well for months now, despite our cut in rates last time round.

BoE FED are fairly similar now.

Seems that markets have little more trust in the UKs economy and outlook than you have.

Now some of that credit has to handed to Hunt who did stabilise the UK very well.

DejaTu · 19/09/2024 13:08

iwishihadknownmore · 19/09/2024 13:02

FFS indeed, the £ has been doing well for months now, despite our cut in rates last time round.

BoE FED are fairly similar now.

Seems that markets have little more trust in the UKs economy and outlook than you have.

Now some of that credit has to handed to Hunt who did stabilise the UK very well.

Markets like stability.

The post election price action is in part due to that.
30th October will be seminal.

Oh and weakness in the eurozone flatters the pound.

The Fed we know.

PandoraSox · 19/09/2024 13:10

DejaTu · 19/09/2024 13:00

Is this an attempt at humour?

https://fullfact.org/economy/70-year-high-tax-burden/

EasternStandard · 19/09/2024 13:10

So we can add another year on and say highest tax burden due to Labour

DejaTu · 19/09/2024 13:13

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PandoraSox · 19/09/2024 13:14

EasternStandard · 19/09/2024 13:10

So we can add another year on and say highest tax burden due to Labour

Well not yet as they have changed no taxes and been in power less than three months.

The point of my post was to demonstrate to that poster that @blossomtoes comment was not a joke but a fact.

PandoraSox · 19/09/2024 13:16

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I can't read the whole thing as paywalled, but the headline suggests the Telegraph agrees.

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/business/2024/03/06/taxes-soared-record-high-14-years-tory-rule/

DejaTu · 19/09/2024 13:17

PandoraSox · 19/09/2024 13:14

Well not yet as they have changed no taxes and been in power less than three months.

The point of my post was to demonstrate to that poster that @blossomtoes comment was not a joke but a fact.

They are evidently not apolitical so forgive me if I don’t rely on it.

Ive lived through Callaghan - not keen on reliving it.

PandoraSox · 19/09/2024 13:18

DejaTu · 19/09/2024 13:17

They are evidently not apolitical so forgive me if I don’t rely on it.

Ive lived through Callaghan - not keen on reliving it.

Did you see the Telegraph link?

DejaTu · 19/09/2024 13:20

PandoraSox · 19/09/2024 13:18

Did you see the Telegraph link?

In the best traditions of one of the other posties on here - no, I’m not interested.

PandoraSox · 19/09/2024 13:25

DejaTu · 19/09/2024 13:20

In the best traditions of one of the other posties on here - no, I’m not interested.

I know it can be hard to admit you are wrong. How about the FT?

www.ft.com/content/ec845f58-890a-4e48-99df-2993b92bb37a

EasternStandard · 19/09/2024 13:26

PandoraSox · 19/09/2024 13:14

Well not yet as they have changed no taxes and been in power less than three months.

The point of my post was to demonstrate to that poster that @blossomtoes comment was not a joke but a fact.

they have changed no taxes

This is incorrect. 20% VAT is happening. Labour will have the highest tax burden since WW2

And that's before whatever they announce in the budget.

Efacsen · 19/09/2024 13:27

Ive lived through Callaghan - not keen on reliving it.

Gosh that's a long time ago - were you a toddler at the time?

DejaTu · 19/09/2024 13:27

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