Labour

[EverythingAllatOnceAllTheTime]

No questions the Tories were bad, but Labour are on another level.

Are you still happy you voted them in? Be honest now, you are having your doubts aren’t you?

If not, you really should be.

Understood.

I would be keen to hear the results of your own research, with the corresponding impact to the UK tax take.

I shall also look at the economics.

It's not something I'm going to invest time into researching. It's not as important to me as it is you.

If you are a family, it is impossible to up sticks and move to another country that quickly, it will have been in the pipeline for some time.
We moved to the EU some years ago, and we had to find a school for the kids, and a home to live in. The process took from about February till July to fully resolve. We had to finish the school year in the UK, and start a whole new curriculum. My husband though was doing the job part remotely and part in person for those months.
That is my lived experience. It was the same to move back, several months in the planning.

Respectfully, I have noticed a penchant for stonewalling.

I'd say though that since Brexit has happened it is much harder to move into Europe as a lot of the red tape has returned. So probably this coupled with the huge increase in remote working has meant that businesses don't actually need to move people any longer, unless they are actively withdrawing from that country's market. So maybe 9500 are leaving but the usual numbers of people who did so in the past has most likely fallen.
In the team I work in, every one of us works in a different country.

Thanks.

Not for us. The school had spaces, and the B permit was arranged super quickly (co sponsored).
The hardest part was finding a house. Letting our property in the UK was also harder because co budgets have been cut.

Yes, the co has offices here so that was helpful.

Lol, I am not supporting your argument 😂
We were company sponsored as well and in the EU not Switzerland, pre brexit.

LOL I know you are not!

You can see it might be different for the pp?

Of course capital is fluid and very moveable BUT you said your company moved people out of the UK and into Switzerland within 2 months of a Labour victory.

Odd way to behave, as Labour had no particular tax plans, staff moved, accommodation for people, schooling, uk house rented, certs done, marketed.... all sorted within 60 days plus 2 year + permits can take several weeks to obtain.

Now its about trusts!!!

Growth is what matters not a few people who may leave or not.

Once again, we pp's spouting similar earlier nonsense, ridiculing other pp's whilst saying they are experts in the field, since shown to be at best disingenuous.

On it not being important. It is for everyone if we have an overall reduction, all those promises will turn to 'difficult decisions'

Too late now but more focus on economics and behaviour change would help

Well obviously I don't know whether the PP is telling the truth or not, they are just some random on the internet.
I know from my experience that with children having to move school etc, finding suitable accommodation and sorting your life out back home, moving country was not a 6 week job from the day of being told you are moving to actually having moved.

'having to move school'

I don't know where you went but do know that many schools here are set up for international students who can access quickly. I assume that other countries who have high influx of wealth do too.

Your first para is correct.

Your second para is incorrect.

Re growth you mention - kindly expand.
Where do you see it coming from for the UK?

(No stonewalling please LOL)

Im tempted to PM you.

Even in international schools the curriculum is not always the same. Where we were the British school was inflexible, miserable actually and would not let my kids carry on with the exam boards they were using here in the Uk so wanted to put everybody back a year etc. Ended up in an American school with the International Baccalaureate system, which actually was fabulous.
So obviously if you don't care which school your kids go to then that's not an issue but it was a big deal for us.

We were IB to IB too.

Your experience is obviously dependent on where you went but there's no suggestion the international school I'm thinking of here doesn't deliver quickly for people and I assume other schools can too. Particularly in a country set up for incoming wealth.

Of course you were 😂
So wait the schools go back in Switzerland at the start of August and you moved between the 4th of July and then?
I take my hat off to you.

Anyway I have a job to do - good luck in Switzerland, hope it goes well for you

Thank you!

Good luck with your job of work!

I don't atm, Labour have cut capital projects and either won't or cannot seek to rejoin the SM, Starmer can visit all the EU countries he wishes too but trade is not a state matter, its an EU one and that involves the ECJ, a red line for him, so we will have to wait for the budget in October.

This is why Labour say no more money for the NHS until it reforms, there is no more money under the fiscal rules Reeves says she has adopted from the Tories.

None of my paragraphs were wrong.

The SM is a non-starter - although I can see attempts at closer alignment in some areas.

I applaud them re the NHS budget+reforms.

Yes, your para was wrong.

Respectfully you haven’t had time to notice much, you’ve only been here five minutes.