Labour

[EverythingAllatOnceAllTheTime]

No questions the Tories were bad, but Labour are on another level.

Are you still happy you voted them in? Be honest now, you are having your doubts aren’t you?

If not, you really should be.

How strange, given that the Tories started the tax hikes.

Are you sure it wasn't actually a Brexit based decision?

Who cares?

To use your own words.

I think our visitor is back...

I thought you might since you were posting about it.

You're a FT poster, you said on this thread. I'm not sure what that means - can you clarify? I assumed at first it meant first time but now I'm wondering if it means full time.

I don't blame you but if Labour muck up the tax regime and your posts are indicative of others too then it will 'pain' and 'difficult decisions' for more groups.

Then not just for pensioners, which I see many are happy to ignore.

First time.

Lets both try to be civil ok?

Thing is, all these millionaires who shout that they're going to leave the UK if/when Labour are in power, rarely seem to.

Frankly, if they can't be arsed to pay their share, good riddance. They're hardly contributing to the country, in much the same way as the Daily Heil doesn't pay UK tax, and nor does it's owner.

Charlie Mullins is still here.

And it was the great Patriotic Brexiteers James Dyson and Jim Ratcliffe that campaigned to push the country off a cliff and then buggered off to somewhere where they wouldn't be affected. I wish they'd left beforehand.

Bad decision. The bar needs to be higher.

Not true. Many left wing people here and out in the real world are saying the WFA decision needs a rethink.

It was the same in 1997. Most of them stayed put.

As a few posts have said Blair did not use the rhetoric or policies of this Labour gov. He was happy to keep higher earners on side with policy.

It has been a while since we've had a gov along these lines

But nothing has changed for higher earners yet. No announcements so far. Or have I missed something?

Speculation. You missed a load of speculation.

Ha yes it's a shame Starmer talked about 'pain' and 'broadest shoulders' in a press conference

Wouldn't want people to opt out already

Well we don't know what that means yet, do we? Did all the high earners flee in terror when Osborne used that phrase?

So were was i so wrong to earn your rebuke? and moving to Switzerland isn't something anyone can do just because they don't like paying tax in the UK, you ve also various taxes local there too, its not a cheap place.

You and your company moved fast, schools, housing etc etc all have to be arranged, all done before a single policy announcement?

Wow there's a whole new thread asking folks if they're happy they voted labour.
It's like the private school threads on steroids 😂

What's mn Labour loyalty on steroids?

Not sure what you mean @EasternStandard
I am just commenting that daily there's another thread about this very subject, i can't see what's wrong with that?

The top 1% of income earners (0ver £183k) of which there are 320k people in the UK pay 30% of all income tax revenues.

The top 0.1% of income earners (over £500k) of which there are 50k people in the UK pay 25% of all income tax revenues.

So you really don't need many from the top 0.1% to leave the country for it to make a noticeable impact on tax revenues.

So it seems strange that many posters either don't care or welcome the wealthy leaving the country.

Those are the ones that actually pay tax though. Far too many of the really top earners barely pay a penny. Including the likes of patriot Rees-Mogg.

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Good old Dicky T eh?

So rather than the level of current upper rate tax rate, you see the issue as getting more wealthy people to actually pay it.

The problem with this is that either they are legally avoiding tax in which case perhaps the rules should be changed (eg non dom status) or they are illegally evading tax in which case they need to be prosecuted.

Although both clearly should be done in reality neither are easy to achieve.

@HannibalHeyes

I thought patriotism and nationalism were the scourge of the far right.

So surely then that makes tax avoidance OK if you are not patriotic and more left wing?