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Trump shooting - odd? Staged?

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NChange10 · 20/07/2024 17:17

I haven't seen the footage.
But apparently he threw his fist up and said fight fight fight.

Does it look like a normal reaction? Wouldn't you try and move away fast?

Do people think it's staged? Or is the world so strange now I'm just reading too much into it.

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ebadame · 21/07/2024 10:11

Changingplace · 20/07/2024 20:10

What on earth would make you think you’ve got any place to comment on something you’d not even taken two minutes to watch beforehand, don’t be so utterly ridiculous.

This!!!

InWalksBarberalla · 21/07/2024 10:15

Oh come off it. Starting a thread about the shooting maybe being staged when you supposedly haven't even watched the footage. Over a week after the shooting. What exactly are you trying to achieve?

Vitriolinsanity · 21/07/2024 10:17

InWalksBarberalla · 21/07/2024 10:15

Oh come off it. Starting a thread about the shooting maybe being staged when you supposedly haven't even watched the footage. Over a week after the shooting. What exactly are you trying to achieve?

🏆 here you go for being literally the world's worst conspiracy theorist OP.

Startingagainandagain · 21/07/2024 10:20

Enough of this 'it was staged' nonsense....

I am not a fan of Trump to say the least but someone in the audience lost their life and the perpetrator was killed and he has a family too who must be in complete turmoil.

It really is disrespectful to go on about how this was staged.

Trump's reaction matches is usual showmanship.

Tracevu · 21/07/2024 14:17

Yes it was staged. Nothing was normal about the abysmal lack of basic security or the Secret Service response before and after. Trump said in his convention speech that his right hand was covered with blood after he touched his ear and that there was blood everywhere but when, during his first photo op immediately after the tail wagged the dog when he waved his right hand to the crowd, neither it nor his white shirt had a drop of blood on them -- they were spotless.

We are now eight days after the wagging and still no medical report or attending physician press conference, very likely because he was not taken to any hospital. Now we have the "authorities" changing the story to say Trump was not hit by an AR-15 round (which would have taken his ear clean off) but instead was hit by a plastic shard from a teleprompter that was hit. He is now no longer wearing a Maxipad on his ear and no wound is visible. I could go on and on, but I won't. I'm waiting for someone to awaken our corporate media but I'm not holding my breath.

And BTW, I spent four decades investigating incidents in the field as a public health epidemiologist for CDC, several state health departments and seven American Indian tribes so I have a well developed spidey sense re: such matters. Trump was willing to sacrifice his supporters for this charade but then he was willing to sacrifice hundreds of thousands of Americans when he delayed our response to COVID and encouraged folks to mainline bleach. I would put nothing past him and the Russian oilgarchs who pull his chain -- nothing.

noblegiraffe · 21/07/2024 14:26

Real bullets were fired in the direction of Donald Trump. We can see where they hit, and the people who were injured and the person that they killed. Are you suggesting that a staged assassination attempt involved firing real bullets in the direction of Trump? Why not a shooter who was on the brink of firing but was overcome at the last minute?

Re: blood - it didn't drip on his shirt, but you can see where it dripped down his face. He clearly had his head forward.

There seem to have been many failings on the part of the security services, but that doesn't mean that it was staged.

Callalllaaammma · 21/07/2024 14:58

Tracevu · 21/07/2024 14:17

Yes it was staged. Nothing was normal about the abysmal lack of basic security or the Secret Service response before and after. Trump said in his convention speech that his right hand was covered with blood after he touched his ear and that there was blood everywhere but when, during his first photo op immediately after the tail wagged the dog when he waved his right hand to the crowd, neither it nor his white shirt had a drop of blood on them -- they were spotless.

We are now eight days after the wagging and still no medical report or attending physician press conference, very likely because he was not taken to any hospital. Now we have the "authorities" changing the story to say Trump was not hit by an AR-15 round (which would have taken his ear clean off) but instead was hit by a plastic shard from a teleprompter that was hit. He is now no longer wearing a Maxipad on his ear and no wound is visible. I could go on and on, but I won't. I'm waiting for someone to awaken our corporate media but I'm not holding my breath.

And BTW, I spent four decades investigating incidents in the field as a public health epidemiologist for CDC, several state health departments and seven American Indian tribes so I have a well developed spidey sense re: such matters. Trump was willing to sacrifice his supporters for this charade but then he was willing to sacrifice hundreds of thousands of Americans when he delayed our response to COVID and encouraged folks to mainline bleach. I would put nothing past him and the Russian oilgarchs who pull his chain -- nothing.

This is just conspiricy bullshit - he was shot in the ear, a bystander was shot, two wounded and the gunman was shot dead. Any other explination is pure fantasy.

Tracevu · 21/07/2024 15:17

First off, it's spelled "explanation" but thanks for letting me know who I'm responding to. The official story has changed from Trump being hit by a bullet to him being hit by a shard of plastic. In truth, I believe the only thing that hit Trump's ear was a handful of theatrical "blood", no doubt provided by his buddies in the pro wrestling clown show. And in addition to your misspelling and your unawareness of the revised story about what "hit" Trump, you are also wrong about the collateral damage. Four people were shot, two of them killed and two of them severely wounded and none of them was named Trump.

Here's the photo of his "bloody right hand" less than two minutes after he was "shot". Only one problem -- the hand and his white shirt were both spotless.

Trump shooting - odd? Staged?
79Helene · 21/07/2024 15:39

Sorry but it's going to take a lot more than your "spidey sense" and a blurry photograph to convince me this was staged. Are you seriously suggesting Trump would position himself centre stage in the knowledge that a random 20 year-old kitchen porter was about to fire a round in his direction?

I'm waiting for someone to awaken our corporate media but I'm not holding my breath.
If you shout 'wake up sheeple' a bit louder they might hear you.

Tracevu · 21/07/2024 15:54

I apologize if you are vision-impaired but the photo is not blurry and neither Trump's hand nor his white shirt have a drop of blood on them. As for the shooter (who appears to have been recruited by BlackRock), he was good enough to hit anything and everything except Trump, including the shattered teleprompter screen that is now claimed as the cause for Trump's now Maxipad-less invisible injury. At that distance, even a PA granny woman with poor vision could have done that.

We are eight days out and there is neither a medical report nor any attending physician's statement regarding Trump's "wound". That is likely because he received no treatment whatsoever. A wet washcloth was likely all it took to make things right. After all, theatrical "blood" is meant to come off easily.

Hope your vision improves as well as your connection with reality. These days, with all of the corporate media falling in line, I know how challenging that must be. It's not challenging to the one in eight Trump voters who believe the incident was staged, according to a Newsweek poll shortly after the tail wagging.

Trump shooting - odd? Staged?
noblegiraffe · 21/07/2024 15:58

There are several photos showing blood on Trump's hand.

And as explained before, the blood didn't drip on his shirt because it dripped down his face as his head was down.

Trump shooting - odd? Staged?
Tracevu · 21/07/2024 16:23

His right hand is not "covered with blood" in this photo as he stated at the GOP/RICO convention. And his "wound" hardly "bled" at all, something that is very atypical for any head wound, something I am very familiar with. In addition, the two red streaks on his face show what appears to be a three inch gap between them and his ear, something else that would not have happened with a real ear wound which would have gushed blood. (Real head wounds are notoriously "gushy".)

Show me the hospital report and the attending physicians' press conference. Oh wait, you can't because there is no "there" there. That's why, in addition to the one in eight Trump voters who believe correctly that this was staged, one in three Biden voters believe the same thing, with "undecided"s falling between them. That significant skepticism is entirely absent in the corporate media coverage and here, a site that until this morning I had never heard of. From the responses I've received so far, that's no surprise.

Here's another photo showing an intact ear, almost no "blood" anywhere (when a real wound would still be bleeding profusely) and a spotless right hand and white shirt. So glad my eyes don't lie. You?

Trump shooting - odd? Staged?
79Helene · 21/07/2024 16:29

Tracevu · 21/07/2024 15:54

I apologize if you are vision-impaired but the photo is not blurry and neither Trump's hand nor his white shirt have a drop of blood on them. As for the shooter (who appears to have been recruited by BlackRock), he was good enough to hit anything and everything except Trump, including the shattered teleprompter screen that is now claimed as the cause for Trump's now Maxipad-less invisible injury. At that distance, even a PA granny woman with poor vision could have done that.

We are eight days out and there is neither a medical report nor any attending physician's statement regarding Trump's "wound". That is likely because he received no treatment whatsoever. A wet washcloth was likely all it took to make things right. After all, theatrical "blood" is meant to come off easily.

Hope your vision improves as well as your connection with reality. These days, with all of the corporate media falling in line, I know how challenging that must be. It's not challenging to the one in eight Trump voters who believe the incident was staged, according to a Newsweek poll shortly after the tail wagging.

I apologize if you are vision-impaired
20/20 vision here so no need for apologies.

We are eight days out and there is neither a medical report nor any attending physician's statement regarding Trump's "wound". That is likely because he received no treatment whatsoever.
Because that's information from a personal medical record, that's why. If he doesn't want to disclose it that's his prerogative. Maybe he's chosen not to make that public so he can play games with people like you. Because let's face it, he does have that kind of childish mentality.

Hope your vision improves as well as your connection with reality.
Something about people in glass houses.

That significant skepticism is entirely absent in the corporate media coverage and here, a site that until this morning I had never heard of. From the responses I've received so far, that's no surprise.
Oh you should definitely stick around

noblegiraffe · 21/07/2024 16:30

neither Trump's hand nor his white shirt have a drop of blood on them

Except the photo posted where he clearly has blood on his hand.

But don't let that stop you.

Linzi2377 · 21/07/2024 16:38

You went from “not a drop of blood” to hardy any 😂 bore off..it wasnt staged

XDownwiththissortofthingX · 21/07/2024 16:38

Callalllaaammma · 21/07/2024 14:58

This is just conspiricy bullshit - he was shot in the ear, a bystander was shot, two wounded and the gunman was shot dead. Any other explination is pure fantasy.

Yes, this.

People mistakenly think that US security must be water-tight and totally on the ball at all times, when the reality is they are human beings, prone to screw-ups and incompetence like everyone else. Trump can't hold rallies indoors because nowhere will deal with him because he never pays his bills, so he's left doing these things in the open air, which makes security all the more awkward.

A version of Hanlon's Razor - "Never attribute to malice what can be explained by incompetence"

All this stuff about being hit by glass shards is nonsense. Neither teleprompter shows any sign of damage. Both were 100% intact while he's being ushered off stage. People in the crowd were hit, one man was killed, the gunman was shot dead. Are people seriously suggesting the gunman was set-up as a patsy rather than just being a fairly poor shot, using a weapon that isn't a precision sniper rifle, and either miscalculating, being too much of a bag of nerves to shoot accurately, or possibly even just using a weapon with poorly calibrated and dialled-in sighting?

He's an amateur, and made an amateurish attempt at assassinating an amateurish politician, aided and abetted by amateurish security.

Tracevu · 21/07/2024 16:40

Except no photo shows his hand "covered with blood", no photo shows any blood on his white shirt and no photo shows a damaged and still profusely bleeding ear wound. Because there is no "there" there. He might have gotten some of that pro wrestling fake blood on his hand but it is scarcely visible and entirely invisible in the photo I initially posted.

I have hayfields to irrigate so I need to leave this apologia circle jerk behind. Y'all carry on. As for Trump keeping anything private like a medical report or an attending physicians' press conference that would have benefitted him politically, you folks seem to be dipping into Trump's inexhaustible crushed Adderall supply.

Remember: speed kills and not just innocent bystanders.

dottiehens · 21/07/2024 16:41

So funny that the lefties are willing to embarrass themselves with conspiracy theories in desperation. Something they always say is for lower intellect people. Which is what they are when talking this type of nonsense.

FuzzyStripes · 21/07/2024 16:46

helpfulperson · 21/07/2024 09:50

I must admit when I saw the footage my first thought was that it looked very staged. The audience was just so calm. But I can't believe even Trump would do that.

People usually are calm when shootings begin because they are prepared for it or expecting it, with their attention elsewhere. It takes a while to realise what the sound is, to realise what is happening and for the panic to set in.

Tracevu · 21/07/2024 16:55

To be very clear, I clearly do not believe Trump was hit by anything. The fact that the story changed from him being hit by an AR-15 round to him being hit by shards of plastic was reported by two separate news outlets (one of them Newsmax) at the scene though it is certainly being challenged online now. Whoever is shepherding this story could not keep up the conceit that he had been hit by an AR-15 round as too many retired military sharpshooters/snipers (including two I consulted with) have insisted that the resultant wound would likely have removed most if not all of Trump's ear and likely damaged his face also. Since Trump is no longer wearing a Maxipad on his ear and no wound is visible, that clearly did not happen.

My hayfields await. Continue apologizing for an amoral accomplice to murder who's happy to sacrifice anyone (including his own supporters) to fit his agenda. Since everyone here who has responded is an apologist for tail-wagging (which statistically is getting more implausible by the response), I'm beginning to doubt that any time spent here is worthwhile. Surely hope that the one in eight Trump supporters who believe the event was staged are now former Trump supporters. They should be.

noblegiraffe · 21/07/2024 16:58

Do you know that this is a mainly British website?

79Helene · 21/07/2024 17:14

@Tracevu
I have hayfields to irrigate so I need to leave this apologia circle jerk behind.
Everything aside, that is one of the best flounces I've ever seen on MN.

Tracevu · 21/07/2024 17:17

Thanks for letting me know where this formerly unknown (to me) forum exists. A quick search reveals that what was once a useful information sharing forum for "mums" is now a reich wing, transphobic echo chamber. We have enough of those on our side of the pond for me to want to import any more of that homophobic, Know Nothing tripe. See all y'all, bye.

ElleneAsanto · 21/07/2024 18:36

@Tracevu 🎩Chapeau for top flouncing.

I hope you get a good cut of hay. Good to hear from a US farmer who isn’t a diehard redneck Republican.

Notaflippinclue · 22/07/2024 23:40

He may not be a die hard redneck but he is pretty barmy