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Trump shooting - odd? Staged?

63 replies

NChange10 · 20/07/2024 17:17

I haven't seen the footage.
But apparently he threw his fist up and said fight fight fight.

Does it look like a normal reaction? Wouldn't you try and move away fast?

Do people think it's staged? Or is the world so strange now I'm just reading too much into it.

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cupcaske123 · 20/07/2024 17:18

You're reading too much into it. It's not a normal reaction.

FuzzyStripes · 20/07/2024 17:20

I think you need to see the footage and then you will realise that he’d already been surrounded by SS and the shooter killed by this point.

CocoDolphin · 20/07/2024 17:21

It crossed my mind too op! Which just shows how absurd this world has become. I really can’t believe that this was a publicity stunt though because innocent people actually died. Even Trump wouldn’t stoop that low. I think.

GuinnessBird · 20/07/2024 17:21

It's Trump being a showman.

Also I really doubt that Trump would trust anyone to just graze his ear, least of all a failed gun club member.

TorroFerney · 20/07/2024 17:21

how have you managed to not see the footage? That’s on a par with the episode of the likely lads where they don’t want to know the football score!

helpmethankyou · 20/07/2024 17:24

this is entirely normal and spontaneous behaviour for donald trump!

Echobelly · 20/07/2024 17:26

I don't think it was staged. I hear some of the reactions coming from 'my' side and I think 'You'd be sneering if this had been an attack on Biden and Trump types were saying that it's a set-up'. As with all conspiracies, there's too much treating things as though 'If X happens, this GUARANTEES Y will happen in response' and things just don't work that way. I agree Trump was just being himself when he started showboating - people are going 'But why didn't his entourage stop him sticking his head up'? and things like that. Well, they probably wouldn't expect a target to be dumb enough to do that so it's not something you're prepared for as a close protection officer.

I'm not sure we'll ever know the attempted assassin's motives, but I think it's not unlikely he's just one of those types who wanted fame at any cost.

Justcallmebebes · 20/07/2024 17:26

Sorry, am I understanding right that you think Trump may have been responsible for staging his own assassination attempt, resulting in 2 deaths and 3 people being seriously injured?

ElleneAsanto · 20/07/2024 17:27

He didn’t want people to think he’d been fatally injured (like JFK) and, given his mindset, he assumed it was extreme left wingers responsible. So just responding to that. Yes, you are reading too much into it.

I find it weird that his supporters are believing God saved him. If he’d been killed, I doubt they’d believe it was “God’s will”. It’s more a personality cult than politics.

Towelmode · 20/07/2024 17:34

this is entirely normal and spontaneous behaviour for donald trump!

exactly, it’s very presidential!

Trump isn’t stupid enough to time turning his head with a bullet.

NChange10 · 20/07/2024 17:56

Just watched it. Seems amazing that secret services missed a guy on the roof. They saw him 20 mins before hand.

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DancingPhantomsOnTheTerrace · 20/07/2024 18:05

No, I don't think it was staged. I think it was typical stupid Trump behaviour. The secret service clearly wanted to keep him shielded and get him away as soon as possible (as you'd expect), and he insisted on being seen. Incredibly stupid since there was really no way of knowing at that point that there was just one shooter, and he could have put other people in more danger by not doing as he was told.

Notaflippinclue · 20/07/2024 18:14

You haven't seen the footage? How on earth can you possibly comment

FuzzyStripes · 20/07/2024 20:05

ElleneAsanto · 20/07/2024 17:27

He didn’t want people to think he’d been fatally injured (like JFK) and, given his mindset, he assumed it was extreme left wingers responsible. So just responding to that. Yes, you are reading too much into it.

I find it weird that his supporters are believing God saved him. If he’d been killed, I doubt they’d believe it was “God’s will”. It’s more a personality cult than politics.

I am not a supporter or religious but Trump slightly turned his head maybe not even a second before the bullet hit and it would have killed him otherwise. I’d call it incredible luck to survive and many people who are religious often see things that I believe are incredible luck as God’s will.

Changingplace · 20/07/2024 20:10

What on earth would make you think you’ve got any place to comment on something you’d not even taken two minutes to watch beforehand, don’t be so utterly ridiculous.

79Helene · 20/07/2024 20:16

I haven't seen the footage.
Is this a new version of 'please excuse my ignorance but..'?

This is obviously some kind of slow burn before you unleash some mad conspiracy theories.

DramaLlamaBangBang · 20/07/2024 20:18

FuzzyStripes · 20/07/2024 20:05

I am not a supporter or religious but Trump slightly turned his head maybe not even a second before the bullet hit and it would have killed him otherwise. I’d call it incredible luck to survive and many people who are religious often see things that I believe are incredible luck as God’s will.

I doubt Trump is religious. He knows his supporters are though. That's why he is suddenly ultra religious and anti abortion, despite his many affairs, illegitimate children, paying for abortions etc. He was incredibly lucky. More like the luck of the Devil, if you believe in such things, otherwise God has saved Trump but couldn't care less about a man ŵho was shielding his wife and young daughters.

Linzi2377 · 21/07/2024 09:37

Im glad trump is ok but not surprised someone tried to assassinate him,theres always some nutjob thinking they will get famous off the back of something like this..as for his reaction..pure adrenaline i think..shows him to be strong and i think he will win and i hope he does

BobnLen · 21/07/2024 09:44

I see OP has managed to find two minutes to watch the footage now, probably took less time than the post did.

Ridiculous post

scalt · 21/07/2024 09:45

I’m keeping an open mind, and there’s not yet much enough evidence to suggest this was staged.

However, I am very much of the view that lots of big things like this are not as they seem, and if it emerges later that it was staged, I will not be at all surprised.

ContentSolitude · 21/07/2024 09:46

I don't think it was staged. I think Trump was just switched on enough to rise to the occasion and show strength to make him look good. I suspect this was effective.

I don't like the talk around how God spared him in the wake of the deaths of others God obviously didn't choose to spare. That's just a horrible thing for the family of those who did die.

helpfulperson · 21/07/2024 09:50

I must admit when I saw the footage my first thought was that it looked very staged. The audience was just so calm. But I can't believe even Trump would do that.

noblegiraffe · 21/07/2024 09:54

The shooter also had a car full of explosives. If the event was a staged assassination attempt on Donald Trump, why would he have a car full of explosives?

Changingplace · 21/07/2024 10:09

helpfulperson · 21/07/2024 09:50

I must admit when I saw the footage my first thought was that it looked very staged. The audience was just so calm. But I can't believe even Trump would do that.

Sadly I think people in the USA have become accustomed to shooting incidents, and everyone has training about what to do, get down on the ground etc so I think the audience reaction was different to what it would be for something like this in the UK.

The BBC reporter right afterwards was on the ground behind his car, obviously following their H&S guidelines and people were milling about in the background but I think it’s because sadly they’re kind of used to firearms incidents.

Changingplace · 21/07/2024 10:10

scalt · 21/07/2024 09:45

I’m keeping an open mind, and there’s not yet much enough evidence to suggest this was staged.

However, I am very much of the view that lots of big things like this are not as they seem, and if it emerges later that it was staged, I will not be at all surprised.

A man in the audience died. I think that’s enough to show it wasn’t staged.

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