Reform party seems to be ahead in my area.

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Any of you voting Reform?
My area was always labour..( I've never voted labour).. but according to what I'm reading.. it's surprisingly gone the other way.
Will have to wait and see.
Did him being in I'm a Celebrity make him more popular..or is the extreme right the way to go?

Have you seen Farage’s comments on Andrew Tate? I read so many women saying they’ll vote Reform because he’ll protect women. They ignore his misogyny. He’s just vile.

Nigel Farage has praised the misogynist influencer Andrew Tate for being an “important voice” for the “emasculated” and giving boys “perhaps a bit of confidence at school” in online interviews that appear to be aimed at young men over the past year.

Lots of Reform support around here, people are sick of the Uniparty (LibLabCon) and want something new.

Immigration levels are the key concern from my pub earwigging.

I think Reform will get a lot more votes than polling currently suggests. I socialise with well paid, highly educated people and they are quiet about it, but Reforms education policies are likely to appeal to many families in my area. Particularly since Labour have placed so much emphasis on VAT on school fees. Reform offer a 20% income tax offset instead: this makes private education more affordable and alleviates the state provision in the process.
Also worth bearing in mind that Reforms policies are aligned with Thatchers. They are only called "hard right" due to other parties moving so far to the left. I am hearing chatter now that Eastern Europeans will be voting Reform due to fear of excessive socialism/communism creeping in. This group hate Farage due to Brexit so this is very surprising, but there is a shift underway. It will be an interesting election.

Reform aren't 'new'. They're the BNP in a suit.

Farage has studied Trump and used the media to his advantage imo. It will be interesting to see if this translates in numbers or if his media stunts make him seem more popular than he is. I have young adult kids and they say that their peers have been discussing Labour and Reform the most.

Sadly I think it will translate to numbers. Starmer isn’t coming across well, the policies suck, and are not properly funded, they look like they are trying to hide tax raises to get in, and folks are sick of the tories, add in that the average iq isn’t high, harsh but true, large swathes of the population will vote from a position of ignorance.

we could see farage either as pm or in opposition.

We have to ask questions about democracy of we have effectively a large party and a number of smaller ones. The US has been a successful democracy with just 2 parties for centuries and do we need such a status quo in the UK to ensure stability?

Concerns about reform and the conservative collapse are;

Adequate scrutiny of government and accountability

Lack of talent left on the Tory benches

Having a dump Tory party that is in imposition to form a government at some point in the future to ensure a vibrant democracy

The rise of reform with such limited history with economically unrealistic policies has exposed a gap in our democracy and we have to think carefully about how do h parties can rise so quickly and how it affects the governance and indeed culture of the country.

@Taciturn They are only called "hard right" due to other parties moving so far to the left.

That contradicts the opinions of almost every political expert - that politics have moved massively to the right over the past 50 years. Starmer’s current manifesto has been likened to Ted Heath’s of the 1970s.

Reform are called “hard right” because they’ve got an autocratic leader, there’s no democratic processes within the ‘party’, they’re openly racist, openly hate women, insular, have delusions of superiority over other countries, nationalistic. It’s not just their economic policy that makes them hard right (I use the term loosely - Farage’s idea of economics seems to be based on how many expenses he can swindle), but their utterly hateful, archaic views. Their supporters bury their heads and ignore these in the hope of paying less tax.

The parties have definitely moved left over the last two decades. The electorate on the whole hasn't, this is why Reform are starting to do well and why the Tories previously broke the "red wall".

I am starting to sense an increasing amount of fear from the Uniparty (LibLabCon) side as they can't handle a genuine right wing party emerging.

Edit: The new non Uniparty (LibLabCon) left wing party, the Workers Party of Britain are also getting similar treatment as Reform. Makes you think doesn't it.

My local internet forum is running an ongoing poll about current voting intentions in a strongly Labour held constituency. Labour is still leading strongly followed by
Greens
Reform
LibDems
Tory

Actually I read a piece in the Guardian with comments from someone who had been at school with Garbage, sorry I mean Farage and apparently he used to say Hitler had the right idea about the jews and would mutter “gas ‘em” at a jewish pupil.
He also think Andrew Tate is a good influence on young boys.
We saw photos of him dancing with Priti Patel at the last tory party conference when he actually wouldn’t piss on a brown person if they were on fire but was happy to use her if it suited him.

There are no left wing parties left, so a heap of crap being talked here. Reform are hard right.

Far age is 60 years old, so this was maybe 45 years ago. Have none of your views changed since you were at school? Are you really, really proud of everything you said and did as a teenager?

if so…😇 ( or maybe😵‍💫)

Well I never supported Hitler at any age. Did you?
It’s a bit more fundamental than dying your hair purple and being obsessed with Depeche Mode. Morally I am the same person I have always been.

I'm voting reform.

They're the only people I trust to stop the thousands of dangerous illegal men coming into our country and attacking women and girls.

I agree. Sadly far too many people are either uninformed (or only know what they think they know through SM) or have their fingers in their ears saying 'lalala I'm not listening to you' as DD1 used to do when she was a teenager.

I think re from will do really well. I believe a lot of people wont admit to voting for them

Look what happened with brexit. Anyone who voted yes was attacked verbally so people stopped admitting it. The same is happening.

Not everyone who votes Reform is a racist but every racist votes for them.
The only people I know irl who plan to vote reform are indeed racists. They are gleeful at the prospect of Nigel Garbage leaving black and brown people to drown in the channel which is apparently part of Reform’s plan with their floating wall without handholds. Staff on the wall will be told that anyone in the water on the french side are the sole responsibility of the french coast guard and not to offer assistance.
I wonder what sort of people will be applying for a job watching people drown?

That's my fear - another Brexit situation.

Mine too.

Yes it is the same. People listened to Farage’s lies, cast their votes and shafted the country. And not content with the part they played (“Yes, it was a mistake. We were lied to!”) they’re now going to do exactly the same thing all over again. You couldn’t make it up. Isn’t it a case of “Fool me once, shame on you. Fool me twice, shame on me”?

So I vote for the party lead by the man who is an apologist for Andrew Tate, loves Donald Trump and has a candidate who is a twice convicted paedophile.

I know someone who went to school with Farage. He was not particularly objectionable to him, other than being very racist and pro Nazi.

The referendum results within the margin of error for polling leading up to it IIRC. And it was a narrow win on a yes/no referendum. That’s very different to getting seats in a FPTP election.

The Brexit party vote is extremely inefficient. They’ll need to take some pointers from the lib dems if they want to translate their vote share into seats. Or the Green Party in the last local elections.

What exactly are you reading?

If an official poll, pay attention. If just bollocks on FB, take with a pinch of salt.