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I’m calling the date of the next General Election

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Lettucelet · 21/03/2024 20:43

Thursday 24 October 2024.

My logic is thus:

  1. Tory MPs with kids in private school will want the election after the next academic year starts so that they will get an extra year VAT free while Labour gets its house in order. This is why Jeremy Hunt said the election wouldn’t happen until the Autumn.

  2. Tory MPs will want to take full advantage of the summer holidays/recess so they won’t want to campaign in July/August when they could be on a yacht instead.

  3. Term will start Week Commencing Monday 9 October at the latest. They will want to have a week to sort things out.

  4. So, 6 weeks after the Thursday of the week after 9 September is Thursday 24 October which fits in nicely with half term and they can go on holiday again.

Place your bets.

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JessS1990 · 05/05/2024 16:43

Freakinfraser · 05/05/2024 16:39

I actually think sunak is doing the right thing for the country financally. However he lacks charisma and gravitas, and doing the right thing, is not the same as doing the popular thing,

he is unable to take people with him to explain it. Amd it means tories out. We will have four years of labour, fucking it up, and the electorate will take them out. Aa they do every single time. As every so often labour have to be given power. It lasts for 4 years, we all suffer then the electorate take them out.

Can I just check, was Sunak doing the right thing when he raised NI to pay for social care, or when he then cut it to try and win the election?

Freakinfraser · 05/05/2024 16:45

JessS1990 · 05/05/2024 16:43

Can I just check, was Sunak doing the right thing when he raised NI to pay for social care, or when he then cut it to try and win the election?

Yes, as both had different objectives. As said. 4 years. That’s what we have ahead of us, guaranteed. I will put money on it.

JessS1990 · 05/05/2024 16:46

Freakinfraser · 05/05/2024 16:45

Yes, as both had different objectives. As said. 4 years. That’s what we have ahead of us, guaranteed. I will put money on it.

So it was right to sacrifice social care which is in crisis in order to try and win an election.

OK.

Marjoriefrobisher · 05/05/2024 17:49

Freakinfraser · 05/05/2024 16:39

I actually think sunak is doing the right thing for the country financally. However he lacks charisma and gravitas, and doing the right thing, is not the same as doing the popular thing,

he is unable to take people with him to explain it. Amd it means tories out. We will have four years of labour, fucking it up, and the electorate will take them out. Aa they do every single time. As every so often labour have to be given power. It lasts for 4 years, we all suffer then the electorate take them out.

When you look at all the party leaders it’s very clear that « charisma and gravitas » aren’t going to play much of a role. And that’s fine, but competence would be nice.

AnnieSnap · 05/05/2024 18:43

Freakinfraser · 05/05/2024 16:39

I actually think sunak is doing the right thing for the country financally. However he lacks charisma and gravitas, and doing the right thing, is not the same as doing the popular thing,

he is unable to take people with him to explain it. Amd it means tories out. We will have four years of labour, fucking it up, and the electorate will take them out. Aa they do every single time. As every so often labour have to be given power. It lasts for 4 years, we all suffer then the electorate take them out.

Do you think he is doing the right thing on health care, education, social care and sewage?

JessS1990 · 05/05/2024 19:59

Marjoriefrobisher · 05/05/2024 17:49

When you look at all the party leaders it’s very clear that « charisma and gravitas » aren’t going to play much of a role. And that’s fine, but competence would be nice.

Fortunately the next Prime Minister of this country is well known for his competence.

AceofPentacles · 05/05/2024 20:02

Robert Peston said yesterday he thinks it's November 14th. So hopefully on the 15th I'll wake up to a fantastic birthday present of lots of miserable tories ! Get fucked Sunak and co

Newtonianmechanics · 05/05/2024 20:51

The prime minister can call the next general election any time between now and 17 December 2024 – which is exactly five years since parliament first met after the last general election, in 2019. If an election has not been called by this point, parliament would be automatically dissolved and the election would take place 25 working days later. This means the latest date for the next general election is 28 January 2025.

Surely he wouldn't let it automatically be dissolved or maybe he would?

TooBigForMyBoots · 05/05/2024 21:20

How many MPs do you think PM Sunak will lose between now and the GE?

I think a minimum of 3, but more likely 6 or 7.

JessS1990 · 05/05/2024 21:22

TooBigForMyBoots · 05/05/2024 21:20

How many MPs do you think PM Sunak will lose between now and the GE?

I think a minimum of 3, but more likely 6 or 7.

Is the reason he hasn't been seen for days, that he is searching for lost MPs?

Churchview · 05/05/2024 21:29

As every so often labour have to be given power. It lasts for 4 years, we all suffer then the electorate take them out.

1997 - 2010
Not 4 years

It was the longest period of sustained low inflation since the 1960s, low mortage rates, record levels of literacy and numeracy in schools with doubling of school funding, youth unemployment down 75% and 600,000 children lifted out of poverty.

Not all suffering.

JessS1990 · 05/05/2024 21:34

Churchview · 05/05/2024 21:29

As every so often labour have to be given power. It lasts for 4 years, we all suffer then the electorate take them out.

1997 - 2010
Not 4 years

It was the longest period of sustained low inflation since the 1960s, low mortage rates, record levels of literacy and numeracy in schools with doubling of school funding, youth unemployment down 75% and 600,000 children lifted out of poverty.

Not all suffering.

But those who like to feel superior suffered, because others who they viewed as their inferiors were helped to improve themselves.

AnnieSnap · 05/05/2024 23:50

Churchview · 05/05/2024 21:29

As every so often labour have to be given power. It lasts for 4 years, we all suffer then the electorate take them out.

1997 - 2010
Not 4 years

It was the longest period of sustained low inflation since the 1960s, low mortage rates, record levels of literacy and numeracy in schools with doubling of school funding, youth unemployment down 75% and 600,000 children lifted out of poverty.

Not all suffering.

I worked in the NHS from Thatcher’s days, through to the current abysmal shower. The only time in my career that mental health (my field) was probably funded was under Labour ‘97 - 2010!

SwimmingSnake · 05/05/2024 23:57

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HRTQueen · 06/05/2024 00:19

I think I’d it’s just after the US election or just before people will get politics fatigue as this US election will be reported on very heavily and journalists love reporting on Trump

that may help the Tories slightly more than other parties but in such a small way that it won’t make that much of a difference

the Tories could hold out hoping things shall improve will digging away trying to find something on Starmer

Noras · 06/05/2024 07:50

I don’t think that there are miracles to be worked here and many people will be disappointed after the election.

The truth is that the UK has been on the decline since the Second World War just look at its performance against the dollar since then when the pound was worth 4 dollars. With Thatcher came privatisation and then we had the Big Bang to boom the economy. But now everything has been sold to private investors. We are down for.

Moreover the whole of Europe is on the slide.

In reality the things that need to be done can’t or won’t be done eg

Move to an insurance backed health care like France or Germany - so that people do contribute a little for routine appointments but the government fund the insurance scheme. The current system has collapsed. Also you don’t get to use the system without proof of the insurance as in all other countries.

introduce ID card to stop the black economy and lessen the allure of the UK to irregular migration who are not refugees. .. refugees are another issue.

( Also just a reminder that the refugee crisis was initiated by the Iraq and Afghanistan wars and the Arab Spring with the ending of Gadaffi allowing passage through Libya as well - so both Labour and Conservative were involved in all that - Tony Blair very much so).

Stop the sell of large British manufacturers or successful Uk businesses

Close large tax loop holes to large companies

Get a Covid payment recovery for any businesses sold for millions that benefited from
Covid grants

Reduce foreign ownership of housing

As an aside I would also tax chocolate, sweets, cakes, crisps, snacks, sugary cereals and alcohol really really heavily and take off taxes on fresh veg, eggs etc

We have sold and given away everything to the World.

The only thing the parties can go against are the people who dutifully pay their taxes and national insurance. But even the people who are well paid are paying more taxes than under Blair. It will take too long to explain why but it’s true eg the changes to pension payments impacting those over £320,000, loss of personal allowance over £100,000 and the fiscal drag into the 45% rate.

No one can seem to stop the flow of money out out of the economy due to the likes of companions like Amazon, Starbucks etc We build up large businesses and they are all sold.

If it were me I would insist that no large government contract can go to anyone paying taxes to off shore places eg Lichtenstein or St Kitts etc That would also include all care providers especially elderly care homes.

Noras · 06/05/2024 07:59

I mean there are petty grievances eg people who develop property and sell them only pay CGT at lower rates but they have had their allowances halved so they have less allowance than on income tax

Tax on dividends has been increasingly more taxed and it’s twice taxed income anyway as it’s impacted by corporation tax and then the profit taken out it taxed as dividend

Buy to let landlords exist because the state pension is too low and it’s hard to make enough to live on from investing into a non state employee pension. There is a huge issue between state and private employees and pensions. When you don’t have a defined pension retiring is very scary as you have no idea how the stock market will fare. It’s a huge fear that people in the public sector don’t have as much. In other European countries you get a pension defined by how much you have put in. So people get differing amounts and there is less investment in the whole buy to let.

JessS1990 · 06/05/2024 08:13

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That's because some bad people locked them in a flat (with gold wallpaper).

JessS1990 · 06/05/2024 08:14

HRTQueen · 06/05/2024 00:19

I think I’d it’s just after the US election or just before people will get politics fatigue as this US election will be reported on very heavily and journalists love reporting on Trump

that may help the Tories slightly more than other parties but in such a small way that it won’t make that much of a difference

the Tories could hold out hoping things shall improve will digging away trying to find something on Starmer

The latest dirt on Starmer is that he used to play a musical instrument and so his parents were definetely not working class.

No I didn't make it up, that genuinely is an argument being put forward.

Churchview · 06/05/2024 09:22

We have sold and given away everything to the World.

To be fair, we did steal, plunder and take a lot of it by aggression and oppression.

SwimmingSnake · 06/05/2024 10:02

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HRTQueen · 06/05/2024 11:10

National insurance isn’t just used for healthcare

we need to look at how France and Germany practice health care too not just fund health care, there is a lot more preventative care and responsibility on the public. Also being able to go straight to a specialist without referrals is another option we can look at

government paying more but also more from our own pockets

Marjoriefrobisher · 06/05/2024 17:56

JessS1990 · 05/05/2024 19:59

Fortunately the next Prime Minister of this country is well known for his competence.

Are you one of those who think because he was DPP without noticeably pissing on his own chips he’s fit to be PM? Heh

Marjoriefrobisher · 06/05/2024 17:59

JessS1990 · 05/05/2024 21:34

But those who like to feel superior suffered, because others who they viewed as their inferiors were helped to improve themselves.

God the left really believes mad stuff these days. Or is it just a shite attempt at rhetoric?
whatever, Twitter has a lot to answer for

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