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Why are the Tories allowing this to happen to the country?

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Perfect28 · 08/12/2022 06:29

I'm no fan of the conservatives, to say the least, but I can't understand why they are allowing our country to go to shit with zero interest or intervention?

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borntobequiet · 08/12/2022 06:33

What do you mean “allowing”?
They’re not “allowing” the country to go to shit, they are the prime instigators and movers of all that is shit, including the disaster that is Brexit. They have been asset stripping the country and feathering their own nests since 2010. Criminals.

SantasFlaws · 08/12/2022 06:36

Basically what the PP said.

Has anyone heard from the Prime Minister since all the hoo ha to get him there?

Ostryga · 08/12/2022 06:38

Because it makes them rich. People have been saying this for over a decade, how are people only just starting to cotton on?!

Perfect28 · 08/12/2022 06:39

I get that short term it serves the rich but that's so short sighted. Even the rich need NHS a&e services in emergencies...

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MoreHairyThanScary · 08/12/2022 06:42

It is deliberate.

This is a conservative choice and the result of 12 years of conservative policy.

PortiasBiscuit · 08/12/2022 06:42

Go and educate yourself about the last quarter century and then come back maybe?

Ylvamoon · 08/12/2022 06:43

They don't care as long as they can squirrel away the proceeds to an offshore account.

And this just sums it all up:

www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-63885549

piemaggedon · 08/12/2022 06:43

The tories are just filthy pigs with their greedy piggy snouts in the trough. They have no interest in anyone or anything except how to manipulate our country in a way to fill their own pockets. Ethics and principles left them long ago.

Ifailed · 08/12/2022 06:44

Even the rich need NHS a&e services in emergencies...

They use private A&E.

MushMonster · 08/12/2022 06:48

Yes, they are the ones doing it, so they have to be the ones pocketing it. Regarding the every day citizen that supports the tory party, they surely must be waking up to the reality by now.

Therese Coffey, article yesterday, on the question of rising food prices, apparently it is not the place of the government to provide free food, and the markets are the ones to dictate the prices.
I find this infurating. Nobody asks for free food, but surely it is the damn business of the government to ensure their citizens can (all of them!) afford the basics. And if that means intervene on market's affairs, that is what we pay them for.
Also.... we were waiting on a decision to increase wind power. Either offshore or onshore. But or I missed it, or not happened yet? What I have read is this lady saying she wants to approve solar panel in grade 3b farmland. Like UK does not have enough roofs or something? Why will anyone put solar panels on the ground? This one is escaping me, I do not get it.
This is like a new absolute monarchy model, just the "markets" are the kings and queens here. This free economy model has to go, now.

Virginiaplain · 08/12/2022 06:51

I'm pretty sure Labour will get in at the next election so will start to right everything.

Gasp0deTheW0nderD0g · 08/12/2022 06:52

Ifailed · 08/12/2022 06:44

Even the rich need NHS a&e services in emergencies...

They use private A&E.

What? There's no such thing.

MarshaBradyo · 08/12/2022 06:52

Do you think Labour would meet every pay demand - How would they fund it?

What about inflation

What should they do in your opinion

Beanbagtrap · 08/12/2022 06:54

This is the problem when you are governed by people who went to schools like Eton where they mock and verbally insult people from different background in their assemblies. It's all about making money for mates. And if the people can't afford to eat, let them eat cake! (Or brioche at least). No empathy at all.

red4321 · 08/12/2022 06:54

Because there's not an easy fix.

Inflation is at a 40 year high, partly due to the war in Ukraine. The US has the same issue, and is also hiking the base rate.

There's a huge public debt after the pandemic (yes I agree that money wasn't well spent at times) so the wriggle room is limited. Taxes are already rising and public spending squeezed.

Inflation-level rises in the public sector will add to both further inflation and public debt. While I don't know many people who've had a pay rise in the private sector (excluding promotions) for a long time. We certainly haven't. That's not to say I don't empathise with people struggling to keep a roof over their heads.

Other countries are facing the same problem. It's thoroughly depressing but there's no magic bullet unfortunately.

Perfect28 · 08/12/2022 06:58

There is no private a&e, if you need emergency heart surgery you'll be going to the NHS.

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Perfect28 · 08/12/2022 07:05

Thanks to the posters insulting me. That really helps. I'm not ignorant, I understand that they are dismantling the public services on purpose and the only thing that talks is money. I get this is deliberate. I just can't believe people (often with a 'good' education) can be so stupid and short sighted.

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Perfect28 · 08/12/2022 07:07

Red, that's just not true. The private sector have had wage increases.i just don't buy the inflationary pressure argument, what are people meant to do- starve to prop up capitalism?

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FlamingJingleBells · 08/12/2022 07:07

So they can sell the country off to the highest bidder. They’ve been asset stripping & privatising services for a long time to firms they have a personal interest in. The Tories are not patriotic, they just pretend that they are. The majority of them hold contempt for this country and its people yet people vote for them every time.

BirmaBrite · 08/12/2022 07:09

Inflation-level rises in the public sector will add to both further inflation and public debt. While I don't know many people who've had a pay rise in the private sector (excluding promotions) for a long time.

Regular pay growth in the public sector was 2.2% in July to September 2022, while in the private sector it was 6.6%. This is both the largest private sector pay growth and the largest gap between public and private pay growth on record (since January 2000), excluding the height of the coronavirus (COVID-19) pandemic.

Reluctantadult · 08/12/2022 07:10

I don't 'get' out either op. I understand its deliberate but can't get my head around the mindset. I mean what do they think will happen next? After?

The coal mine that was granted permission yesterday has fucking done for me.

Zonder · 08/12/2022 07:11

There's a lot of looking after the interests of rich business friends so that these friends will look after them, give them lucrative jobs, directorships etc. I'm alright Jack.

MushMonster · 08/12/2022 07:12

Every day this lot is in is a day we lose money. The next government is going to have a trully rough time trying to change things with no money left.
Look at Liz Truss. She managed to vanished lots of money, in less than 40 days, by just saying a few words and posing for the cameras. They got away with it..... they will do it again.
And their inaction, on almost anything that has to do with their actual duty, is making me angrier than I thought I could ever be.

MarshaBradyo · 08/12/2022 07:13

red4321 · 08/12/2022 06:54

Because there's not an easy fix.

Inflation is at a 40 year high, partly due to the war in Ukraine. The US has the same issue, and is also hiking the base rate.

There's a huge public debt after the pandemic (yes I agree that money wasn't well spent at times) so the wriggle room is limited. Taxes are already rising and public spending squeezed.

Inflation-level rises in the public sector will add to both further inflation and public debt. While I don't know many people who've had a pay rise in the private sector (excluding promotions) for a long time. We certainly haven't. That's not to say I don't empathise with people struggling to keep a roof over their heads.

Other countries are facing the same problem. It's thoroughly depressing but there's no magic bullet unfortunately.

Yes there’s no easy way through unless pp think funds are there to match every pay rise demand

We got Truss promising it’ll be easy, Labour haven’t said much except ‘we’d sit round the table’.

Tough as it is Sunak got it right in summer and there’s is no magic bullet.

Labour could meet every demand but how would they fund it?

lollipoprainbow · 08/12/2022 07:13

There's no private A and E but there's No way they'd wait to be seen they'd be ushered straight through and treated Asap while mere mortals wait hours and hours.