The country surely has to be ready for Labour now??

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Education Secretary Kemi Badenoch!
Home Secretary Suella Braverman!
Levelling Up Secretary...Jacob Rees-Mogg!!!!!! 😂🤣😭😭😭

Populist Prime Minister Truss has apparently already appointed her joke of a cabinet. Never did I think there could be a Home Secretary worse than Priti Patel!

Barely any mention of the climate throughout this whole diabolical leadership scrap, other than the fact that Liz doesn't like the look of solar panels. 🤦‍♀️FML.

What have the Tories actually achieved during their tenure? Except Brexit which has made things worse. Anyone??

I don't find Keir Starmer inspirational but he's clearly decent, credible, honest and competent. He understands we need a green economy, investment and jobs asap. He doesn't pick a fight with our European allies. A coalition led by him including Lib Dems and Greens would also be fine by me. Some adults in the room at last, please!!

Contrary to Daily Fail scare mongering the polls suggest he wouldn't need any deal with the SNP.

Surely the country is ready for a Labour led government at last???

If it's not then it needs to be induced

Good one!!

the problem is that Labour aren't ready to run the country rather than the country isn't ready for them.

we are crying out for an electable alternative. Labour in its current manifestation isn't it.

A coalition led by him including Lib Dems and Greens would also be fine by me. Some adults in the room at last, please!!

Contrary to Daily Fail scare mongering the polls suggest he wouldn't need any deal with the SNP.

??? Why NOT the SNP? They're far from perfect (and so is Labour), and I question some of the things they have done in government in Scotland, but they're the third largest party in Parliament and (unlike the Lib Dems) they've been reliably left of centre in the HOC for decades. The Greens have one MP; if there's a sitation where they need to be included for a Lab-led coalition to command a majority, that colaition will be on shaky ground. Plaid, SDLP, and Alba are all left of centre and have more MPs.

It's been ready for twelve years IMO. A day of Tory botchery is one too many.

I don't comment much on politics threads but here's one for you.

I was in the boulangerie yesterday (I live in France) and a Scottish bloke was telling me that this Tory government is the most socialist government in his lifetime. He was mid 50s.

Because he sees them throwing money at things to be a socialist action. The fact that it went to the mates of the Tories for PPE, etc etc etc completely passed him by.

My jaw hit the floor - people think they are socialists? What the heck?

Agree OP my fear is for some strange reason people will still vote Tory

@pastabest Why do you say you don’t think Labour are ready?

I fear that the grown up heavyweight politicians we remember from our childhoods have gone the way of the dodo.

An electoral system that results in nobody in power caring about anything after the next three years is partly to blame.

Proper, skilled people with ideas are deemed boring by the electorate.

I don’t like the Tories but I really struggle to believe that Labour will be any better.

I am willing to give them a chance, however a lot of people who feel like me have a “better the devil you know” mentality.

That is why people keep voting Tories in, because they know how bad they are, they know exactly what to expect.

People don’t really know what they will get with Labour, so to them it’s a risk. What we need is more people willing to take that risk.

In the Times today it is reported that Liz Truss is planning a bonfire of employment regulations, starting with the Working Time Directive. Apparently it will make us more competitive. ....I fear US style holiday allowances, probably cuts to maternity and paternity leave....

So we will be cold, hungry and burnt out...

Labour are great at spending other peoples money. Trouble is, if they win the next election, there is no money to start off with.

Keir Starmer says 'vast majority' of women 'don't have a penis'

Doesn't inspire confidence does it.

This Labour lot will not change anything fundamentally. They don't believe in nationalisation of utilities, don't support strikes and only pay lip service to climate change. I'm sick of having no true opposition. Perhaps PR offers a small hope of change.

As a woman with daughters and granddaughters I cannot vote for Labour.

My local Labour candidate told me, on my own doorstep, not to vote for him.

Just let women starve and freeze then?

Keir Starmer ... he's clearly decent, credible, honest and competent

Come on, he's a politician!

Sadly, I don't think we currently have ANY credible politicians

I don't really see much talent on the Labour front benches. We need the likes of Straw, Brown and David Miliband. The current shadow cabinet are instantly forgettable. I can't think of one politician of any party I really admire who could get us out of this mess.

You'd think so but they seem completely feeble and useless.

If Jacob Rees-Mogg gets his way they won't have a lot of hard won employment rights left.....do you really believe the Tories have the best interests of women at heart?

Because they don't even know who they represent anymore, and they can't come out batting for either side without seriously upsetting the other.

it's stuffed to the gills with champagne socialists and career politicians and a smattering of agitators who just want to stick it to the tories but would crumble if they had to make any actual decisions about running the country. This is all aided and abetted by 'commentators' such as Owen Jones who have their own agendas entirely separately.

The Labour party need to accept that they are really two (at least) completely incompatible parties now that their voters on either side can't get on board with the other side of the party. Neither side is electable on its own merit either.

don't get me wrong I would love nothing more than to see the tories out, but I've lost all faith in Labour to make serious, sensible, well thought through policy decisions rather than just playing to the Twitter gallery.

ditto Lib Dems.

There are really decent centre politicians from both the right and left that have gone very quiet, or left due to reasons of integrity. It's become polarised on both sides of the chamber.

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@Lansonmaid why do you assume I'll vote Tory?

The idea of Rees Mogg as Levelling Up Secretary is the absolute proof of how out of touch the party is. Jesus Christ.

And for those who aren't already aware, if you're a woman or have women and girls in your life you care about, or you (as you should) care about women and girls at all, Truss would have this man in a position of huge influence:

Rees-Mogg is the man who argues abortion should be banned in all circumstances, and women who have an abortion after being raped are committing a “second wrong”.
Jesus fucking Christ.