Boris' conference talk

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Whatever you think of him, I can't help but think his optimism and vision is somewhat engaging?

I'd like to know who 'the people' are, so I can give them a piece of my mind :)

As I understand it, 67% of eligible voters cast their ballot and 54% of those voted conservative.

Over to the mathematicians (which is not me )

(and I wasn’t one of them!)

@HalfwomanHalfcookie

Many people will have a depressing winter full of anxiety. It's OK though because the Prime Minister's speech made the OP smile.

This. It never ceases to amaze me how utterly selfish some people are.

@MrsSkylerWhite

36.18%.
Haven't RTFT - what was the question? The percentage of people who voted for this SOS? 36.18% seems excessive to me.

I was catching up on last night's Question Time and I noted that no one in the audience felt it was a good speech, no one would raise their hand to that despite there being a majority of Tory voters in the audience.

Joker, showman, liar - all these things were said.

@rrhuth

I was catching up on last night's Question Time and I noted that no one in the audience felt it was a good speech, no one would raise their hand to that despite there being a majority of Tory voters in the audience.

Joker, showman, liar - all these things were said.

We saw that.

When Fiona Bruce asked the Brexit voting Conservative stronghold of Aldershot if anyone thought Boris Johnson's speech was just what the party conference needed there was tumbleweed.

The woman who said we needed action not jokes was spot on.

Yes tumbleweed exactly sums it up! Zahawi looked a bit worried I thought.

Currently the headline polls are looking OK still for the government, but it sometimes doesn't take long for there to be a change. There is some interesting issue-by-issue polling which might be of concern to the strategists in the Tory party e.g. apparently voters now think it more likely the Tories will raise taxes in the next government than Labour.

@rrhuth

Yes tumbleweed exactly sums it up! Zahawi looked a bit worried I thought.

Currently the headline polls are looking OK still for the government, but it sometimes doesn't take long for there to be a change. There is some interesting issue-by-issue polling which might be of concern to the strategists in the Tory party e.g. apparently voters now think it more likely the Tories will raise taxes in the next government than Labour.

When did a Tory government not raise taxes on the poorest, whilst helping their rich mates avoid them?

It is a norm in polling that people tend to think of Labour as high tax, Tory as low tax.

The rise in energy is a world wide phenomenon. It has nothing to do with the EU energy cartel. Continental Europe are suffering high increases as well. Some rises are much higher than here in the UK.
And yes, I do think the Government including Boris are doing a good job given the circumstances.

@yellowspanner

The rise in energy is a world wide phenomenon. It has nothing to do with the EU energy cartel. Continental Europe are suffering high increases as well. Some rises are much higher than here in the UK. And yes, I do think the Government including Boris are doing a good job given the circumstances.

It is far more complex than that: ......................................................................................................................... There is enormous variation in the cost of energy in various EU member states. Energy prices in EU countries are dependent on a number of factors including taxation, network charges and the costs associated with environmental protection and renewability. A country’s economic stability and geopolitical location are also key factors.

The cost of wholesale energy procurement and network costs are two of the biggest factors in influencing the cost of energy. Fortunately, these have remained stable in Europe over the past decade.

The biggest reason for the variation between countries, however, is taxes and levies imposed by their governments. These have climbed to form a greater and greater proportion of energy costs over the past decade. In 2010, taxation accounted for an average of 25.6% of the cost of energy. By 2020, this figure had climbed to 36.6% in 2019. Some EU countries have even higher rates. Denmark for instance has tax rates of 63.7% while Germany’s rates currently stand at 52.3%. Malta pays the lowest tax premium at just 7%, while Ireland also benefits from a lower tax rate at 16.3%.
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The point being - EU member states are sovereign (who would have thought it) and run their economies as they see fit, and according to their access to different types of energy production, and use (within the agreed EU framework)

The main difference would be how the government in each country proactively engages with the problem www.standard.co.uk/news/uk/government-ed-miliband-kwasi-kwarteng-secretary-of-state-bbc-radio-b959609.html

....our Gvnmt including Boris are reactive not proactive. It’s their hallmark.

But you consider that’s good enough.

Although, they clearly have more important priorities than ensuring the country is running effectively:

www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2021/oct/01/boris-johnson-rigging-the-system-power-courts-protest-elections?fbclid=IwAR3H7PBGKmBxefcs2EAuQBbb_4zsIAQEY_XxD7wKY5JRFQM9cHpkNSaA8eA

Mark Twain said, “Never argue with stupid people, they will drag you down to their level and then beat you with experience".

Posters, take note.

@Sarahlou63

Mark Twain said, “Never argue with stupid people, they will drag you down to their level and then beat you with experience".

Posters, take note.

Yes - the deflection, and attempting to drag down a rabbit hole is a very common approach.