Second EU referendum. How would you vote?

[JasAnglia94]

Sorry if this has been asked before.

I hear this statement made over and over again - that people would "vote differently if we had a EU referendum today". Would you though?

I was REALLY on the fence re. the referendum. I'm 23 and from a comfortable middle-class background.

In short, I think there is a surplus of people competing for jobs - both at graduate and service level - and that the situation is exasperated by free movement. I also think the problem of housing is made worse by free movement; that there isn't enough housing for people at the middle-lower end of the pay scale and that the number of people in this bracket is ever increasing.

However, I voted to remain last minute (after much persuasion). This was due to economic and environmental reasons. I don't trust the current government with environmental policy and I don't think price rises and fewer jobs (or jobs at lower pay) will help people like me.

Would I vote differently now? No. However, I would definitely be more on the remain side than the leave (e.g. my shopping bill depresses me!).

Was anyone else who was on the fence vote differently now?

Instead of asking the third that voted the opposite way to you to change their vote, why don't people focus on the third that didn't vote at all?

Well, there's always NAFTA

Still waiting to hear what European laws and regulations Brexiters would get rid of, and why. There couldn't be a better definition of deafening silence!

I don't want European laws thank you. I don't care what they are I just don't want European courts meddling in our affairs. It's like a soon to be ex saying what bits of my controlling behaviour do you not like. (none of it actually)

Is this a joke. The EU transparent and negotiated in good faith. They are little better than a bunch of crooks and bully boys that would love to see the UK go down the pan. I'd rather no deal than deal with this lot of chancers.

I'd remain a remain voter. I'm not sure what horrifies me most about Brexit (there's a lot to choose from) but the law that went through at midnight on Tues is up near the top.

If DoubleD and his circus of clowns manage to stay in the single market we might be ok.

*Bill I suppose, not law. Anyway, that one - the European Repeal Bill.

You would never know that we have been members for 43 years and have sponsored some of the laws which 'come from the EU', i.e. they come from the UK and we have got the rest to accept them. Other laws we have accepted, sometimes without bothering to think about them much, but don't blame the EU for that - blame the lazy so and so's in our own Governments. I think it's something like 3-5% that we have objected to.

How would I vote - it would depend on the terms of the Referendum, but still Remain, although would accept and EEA option as a fall back. I sincerely hope that if we ever have another, our Parliament does the job properly another time so e.g. builds in a threshold of votes which must be gained for a particular option.

SouthLondonDaddy..........you have made many assumptions in your post and once again you have put words in my mouth. Where in my post did I say ...."some European laws make my blood boil" You are so busy "cherry picking" that once again you miss my points. I disagree with you and it would take far to long to go into every detail that you require in order to satisfy you. So we will have to agree to disagree as I can't be bothered with some one who does not have the capacity to begin to understand my points and who is itching for an argument and wants to "be right"

What about the freedom of a country to make it's own laws without being dictated to by a load of bureaucrats coining it in and fiddling expenses. We've enough problems of that nature of our own without taking on freeloaders from 27 other countries. Totally and absolutely glad we're almost out.

And it looks like the UK could end up with a Repeal act that gives ministers the right to decide on UK law without parliamentary scrutiny.

If that is "freedom" I'd rather have the "shackles" of the EU.

What about the freedom of a country to make it's own laws without being dictated to by a load of bureaucrats coining it in and fiddling expenses

We elect MEPs to the European Parliament. We are not being dicatated to, we are part of the process.

"The authority to make law belongs to the European Parliament and the Council of the European Union.

The Parliament is directly elected by EU citizens every five years. The Council of the European Union, sometimes called the Council of Ministers, is where representatives of all 28 member countries negotiate."

I don't get why people insist on not understanding this.

*dictated

Especially since we could take a full part in the EU proceedings, and lead the way on certain issues. We used to have quite a decent record on promoting environmental issues I believe.

Would you be happy if Corbyn got into power and started using the Repeal Act to start by-passing Parliament?

Remain!!

10 yrs plus of our civil servants spending time and energy negotiating complex deals which will result in a worse position than we were in before. The UK government has far more important things to spend its time and limited resources on.

We import very much more from the EU than we export to them.

And when it comes to trade deals, do you think the UK on its own (66 million population) will have the same negotiating power - say with China - than the EU countries together (508 million)?

And I don't like the idea of the UK having sole control and power over environment, food standards, farming practices etc. I would be happier if these were overseen and enforced by all EU Member States together with the UK participating fully in the process.

Also, I am so pissed off with this endless ignorant "taking back control" argument going unchallenged. We always had as much power, control and influence as the 27 other Member States! That is how consensual politics works. And on most of the big issues, the decisions went in our favour.

For example, the UK had as much say over hoover manufacturing standards as the 27 Member Sates. Our government committees scrutinized the proposed changes and approved them fhs. When will these lies about having laws "imposed" on us ever be challenged?

The sad thing is, even if we go for a "soft" Brexit and remain in Customs Union etc, the full effects of leaving the EU won't be felt until approx 2022 and everyone will say "oh you see, it wasn't as bad as everyone predicted" and then we will fall off the cliff.

I despair

£ is strengthening because of a possible intetest rate hike, because inflation is running high.

Schengen is more about the practicality of land borders, which the UK doesn't share (of course with the exception of the NI, which is of course politically charged, any change to the status quo on this has ramifications on nationalist/unionist relations).

Throughout history trade has always been more successful with your nearest neighbours, doesn't make sense to impede this.

Without trade deals everything you buy which is produced abroad will be more expensive due to tarriffs. Everything made domestically and sold abroad will be similarily expensive, making that product uncompetitive, impacting the vitality of UK companies.

Any trade with any country (India, China etc) is highly likely come with an inclusion of movement of people - if we want their consumers they will want the UK's employment opportunities.

Leaving the EU is a disaster. I don't see how its going to work.

I voted leave and would do so again, My DH says the same as do my parents. My sister and BIL voted remain - BIL still would but sister would vote leave.

We had the referendum and the vote was to leave. I am sick and tired of the moaning sad remainers who can't let it go

We had a referendum in 1975 with a very clear vote to remain. Why didn't the Leavers let that go?

Still I hope you enjoy the increased prices, job losses etc.

Peregrina......lots of people on here just like you, sitting there with their crystal balls........None of us know what's going to happen, so in the meantime why can't you and the rest of the remoaners get a grip and get behind "Our Country" instead of your doom and gloom predictions which may or May Not happen. We had a vote, you lost, it's called democracy....get it ? Move on. At least have some loyalty to your own Country and be thankful we are democratic. Just because you did not like the result doesn't mean we should vote again until you get what "you remainers" want. In case you misunderstand me I voted remain, but I accept the majority and just want our Country to get on with it and succeed. If I had a second chance I would vote leave because of the way the EU has behaved since with their bully boy tactics and because they are sore losers bit like remoaners actually.

MyNewHobbyisGin.........I think you have been drinking to much gin.

If the vote had been remain Brexit supporters would have been kicked into the long grass and everyone would have moved on. Well it didn't work out that way. Every day that goes by makes me more glad I voted leave.

Still absolutely vote remain.
Being called a 'remoaner' and the childish insults used by die in the wool leave voters make me dig my heels in further. That and the lack of coherent argument.

And btw

petition.parliament.uk/petitions/200004

'dyed in the wool'