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Trump (Part 5)

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claig · 13/12/2016 08:22

Continuation of the discussion on all things Trump and the people's revolutions

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claig · 17/12/2016 14:22

'Inkanta, if you don't know how the Russians have tried to interfere in the US elections, I can only suggest you go and read some newspapers.'

Inkanta, don't bother with the papers, Trump called them "a room full of liars"

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DixieWishbone · 17/12/2016 14:23

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Inkanta · 17/12/2016 14:24

Deep - the newspapers are quite vague about the nature of this Putin interference.

If you know anything concrete - will you share please.

Inkanta · 17/12/2016 14:26

'Inkanta, don't bother with the papers, Trump called them "a room full of liars"'

Thanks Claig.

claig · 17/12/2016 14:26

'So why is he so desperate to brown-nose Putin, then, claig? And why be so quick to write off all the evidence from multiple sources of what Putin has been up to? The Presidential thing to do would be to take time to evaluate it, but his immediate dismissal of it sounds very much like panic.'

Trump doesn't brown nose Putin, but he sees no point in accusing him of things he does not believe he did. Trump said to teh Trump fans "wouldn't it be nice if we got alomh with Russia, folks?" Trump doesn't see the point of making enemies for no reason and having charidees funded by the Saudis and Qataris who are funding Isis, who are a real enemy that as he says "are chopping off heads". It is a new "post spin" world where Trump will go after real enemies and their backers and not create enemies where there was no need.

' but his immediate dismissal of it sounds very much like panic.''

Believe me, there is no panic from Trump. The panic is on BBC Newsnight and at the offices of the Guardian.

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Lweji · 17/12/2016 14:28

I've explained up ahead what is the suspicion and why.
The papers are reporting what the CIA report said and being very clear about it.

Lweji · 17/12/2016 14:29

It's being investigated if the hacking of the DNC and RNC with release only of emails from the DNC was at the order indeed of the Russian top brass, aka Putin.

Inkanta · 17/12/2016 14:33

'Reports on the alleged Russian effort have been anything but cohesive, or complete. During a closed-door briefing to the House Intelligence Committee last week, a senior FBI counterintelligence official reportedly scoffed at the CIA’s conclusion that Russia had plotted to put Trump in office, calling the evidence “fuzzy” and “ambiguous.” Details of the meeting were leaked to The Washington Post.'

Fuzzy and ambiguous I'm getting!

Missswatch · 17/12/2016 14:34

Just saw a video of Kellyanne Conway.
This being the first woman who helped a president win the election. She is being harrassed by feminists for wanting to spend time with her family

Unfortunately Conway has balls of steel and the feminists have been BTFO

claig · 17/12/2016 14:41

You have to understand why there is such fear of Trump worldwide. When he takes over after Jan 20, things will change so fast and so much for the better that it will be game over for the elites and all their tricks and scams. "America is back", as Trump said on his Thank You Tour to the Trump fans in front "of those dishonest people" he calls the press "it will always be America First" and that is what the press's bosses and the entire world elite and their servant politicians fear.

It will be great for all of us here too because there is no way that the Ancien Regime, the PPEs and Blair and his Destitute will be able to stop Brexit when Trump is in power. All the spin on the BBC and in the Guardian will be like PPEs pissing in the wind. The nightmare is over. The people have won.

Even though Corbyn isn't all good, he is better than Blair and Blair and the Ancien Regime won't be back anytime soon.

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SouthallGirl · 17/12/2016 14:43

One last time. I am not referring to David Steele’s type of liberal, I always mean the type that panders to behaviours which in their own culture is not allowed or is illegal, but passively supports those behaviours in other cultures. If calling for the killing of British soldiers is incitement, or at least hate speech, then why is the rule of law not applied even-handedly to all who call for killing and the overthrow of govt?

The regressive liberal or the regressive left is a political epithet used to negatively characterise persons who are accused of holding politically regressive views by tolerating illiberal principles, customs and ideology for the sake of multiculturalism.

Just as Claig’s PPEs are not conservatives, lib-dems or labour in any real sense the same for a regressive liberal. It is not a party, it does not much matter who is in govt. You find RLs in every political party, but what unifies them is a belief that all incoming cultures take precedence over this country’s; even some GB customs have to be renamed.

As we have discussed, there are laws in place which cannot be acted on much for the reasons stated, so they are in effect toothless.

However, there are very toothy laws that could have been invoked but the RL chose not to rock the boat. Why do you think the Northern sex exploitation went on for 12 yrs or more? Because we had that mindset in the agencies, SS, council and police. They conspired not to rescue the girls; some wanted to but were not senior enough to be listened to. A journalist was howled down in social media when she wrote a piece on it in the early 2000s and called racist. The police service was following the regressive liberal policy of the Blair govt, the same govt who deliberately and only for political reasons did this:

“Labour sent out ‘search parties’ for immigrants to get them to come to the UK, Lord Mandelson has admitted. In a stunning confirmation that the Blair and Brown governments deliberately engineered mass immigration, the former Cabinet Minister and spin doctor said New Labour sought out foreign workers.

“He also conceded that the influx of arrivals meant the party’s traditional supporters are now unable to find work.”

That's what those girls were up against.

Lweji · 17/12/2016 14:44

Inkanta, ATM there is no hard evidence, which is why Obama asked for an in depth investigation.
Surely, that's the thing to do.

I wouldn't trust the FBI too much, though, it was their boss who came up with the Weiner emails a week before the election.

claig · 17/12/2016 14:49

"Donald J. Trump Verified account
‏@realDonaldTrump

Dopey Prince @Alwaleed_Talal wants to control our U.S. politicians with daddy’s money. Can’t do it when I get elected. #Trump2016"

All the crap is over, the charidees receiving donations from regimes that back Jihadists, the "pay for play" where "America is Last" because puppets are bought up and bought out will all be over.

As Trump said in his Thank You Tour teh other night to the Trump fans.

"We are losing $800 billion on trade every year. Who writes these deals? Who are these people? They are very, very stupid and maybe worse"

Trump called her Crooked Hillary, he knows that there were crooks involved, but now it will all end and end fast and world elites are petrified because some of them may be involved too.

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SouthallGirl · 17/12/2016 14:51

Don't for a moment think that neither CIA or our own do not 'read' social media or MN. They program in whatever ping words they are using to bring up all printed matter online for checking.

Inkanta · 17/12/2016 14:51

'Inkanta, ATM there is no hard evidence, which is why Obama asked for an in depth investigation.
Surely, that's the thing to do.'

Okay thanks, and don't call me Shirley. ;)

SouthallGirl · 17/12/2016 14:54

I remember Kellyanne Conway. I was MOST impressed with her. She looks a bit Blonde, but my goodness is she smart and articulate.

BertrandRussell · 17/12/2016 14:55

Southallgirl- -any chance of you answering my questions?

Missswatch · 17/12/2016 14:57

She is South. Shame feminists threw her under a bus like they normally do in their systerhood

DixieWishbone · 17/12/2016 14:58

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claig · 17/12/2016 15:00

‘We did great with the Hindus’: Trump thanks Indian-Americans for election win
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The Trump campaign also released an advertisement in which he was seen saying “Aab Ki Baar Trump Sarkar”, copying Modi’s historic 2014 election punchline.

Republican Hindu Coalition chairman Shalabh Salli Kumar said all this had an impact on voting pattern of Indian- Americans, who traditionally have been a strong Democratic supporters.

Based on a survey, Kumar said more than 60 per cent of the community members voted for Trump this time.

In his address, Trump asked people to dream big.

“Dream big and bold and daring. I am asking you to believe in yourself and asking you to believe in America. Together we will make America great again,” he said."

www.hindustantimes.com/world-news/we-did-great-with-the-hindus-trump-thanks-indian-americans-for-role-in-polls-triumph/story-r7MPprmLjDaDSu89hVrg7H.html

I don't know what “Aab Ki Baar Trump Sarkar” means but I do know that it was a historic populist revolution in India when Modi won and I was happy for the Indian people who had voted in such a wonderful democratic populist revolution that gave them hope, and the BBC and the Oxbridge teams were against Modi, just like they are against populist Trump.

The people are winning worldwide and the servants of teh elites are facing defeat. The BBC and their teams will try to divide and rule by inviting guests on to shout "racist" at anyone who is populist, but 60% of Hindus voted for Trump and the elites will never beat Trump fans and divide us.

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OhYouBadBadKitten · 17/12/2016 15:01

south all does that mean you are worried that your views may be seen as extremist?

Missswatch · 17/12/2016 15:01

We have serious concerns that we will see increased racial discrimination and violence, that discrimination against homosexuals will become legal, that women will no longer have autonomy over their own bodies

Won't happen. We in the western world don't want to go back in time, nor will we

DixieWishbone · 17/12/2016 15:03

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claig · 17/12/2016 15:04

'I get a real feeling that many on this thread are only glad Trump was elected because it will stick it to the liberal elites in the UK. '

No, not just teh UK, but that is what affects us most here, but worldwide. Trump means business, growth, prosperity etc just as teh booming stock markets now show. We know the elites will come after Trump and try to crash it for him but we trust that Trump will beat them and restore common sense, freedom and free speech worldwide and end the Jihadi funded wars and the charidees that receive fiunds form Jihadi backers.

Trump will end political correctness worldwide, "make America great again" and "make the whole world great again" and get along with Russia and expand business and prosperity as he drains teh swamp of teh political class worldwide.

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claig · 17/12/2016 15:05

'Anyone seen Trumps new appointment for strategic communications director? '

Who is she?

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