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Trump (Part 4)

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claig · 04/12/2016 19:37

Continuing discussion of the Trumpquake and populist rebellions

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claig · 05/12/2016 14:58

'Ben Carson denying evolution?'

I think that is probably right because he is religious and has some strange religious beliefs. He is off teh chart on some issues, but good on others. "It is wot it is"

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BertrandRussell · 05/12/2016 14:59

" In a 2006 debate, Carson stated: "I don't believe in evolution... I simply don't have enough faith to believe that something as complex as our ability to rationalize, think, and plan, and have a moral sense of what's right and wrong, just appeared."

What's he good on, Claig?

Ontopofthesunset · 05/12/2016 15:02

How can you tell which ones are puppets, claig? Because your X-ray vision can see the strings? Or because they must be puppets if they don't agree with you? It's like your ever changing definition of 'elites' - basically people I don't agree with.

claig · 05/12/2016 15:04

'What's he good on, Claig?'

He is against political correctness, against Blairism.

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Ontopofthesunset · 05/12/2016 15:04

Or, rather, people you don't agree with.

How can we tell if D is joking? You can tell, again with those extra-special X-ray eyes and extra-special joke detectors that are denied the rest of us.

claig · 05/12/2016 15:05

'How can you tell which ones are puppets, claig?'

By their actions. If they lie about wars, about Iraq, about Syria, about Yemen, about Saudi Arabia, then they are probably puppets or else they are clueless.

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claig · 05/12/2016 15:06

'How can we tell if D is joking? '

By using common sense and listening.

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Lweji · 05/12/2016 15:09

Why Eric Trump? Because he was the one quoted as complaining about how much money was spent in things other than children.
Eric Trump on Twitter: The Sad Truth: The Cost Of Stein/Clinton's #Wisconsin Vote Recount Could Have Saved At Least 5,000 Children's Lives
In fact, I wonder how much money Trump is spending on victory rallies instead of spending it on children...

Dr. @RealBenCarson as our next Secretary of the US Dept. of Housing and Urban Development

What exactly are his qualifications or his experience in housing and urban development?
He's an elite and no expert on the subject... What is he good for? Absolutely nothing.

Still waiting for that list of good and bad elites.
And the quote about not monitoring Muslims.

Lweji · 05/12/2016 15:10

If they lie about wars, about Iraq, about Syria, about Yemen, about Saudi Arabia, then they are probably puppets or else they are clueless.

So, what is Trump when he (frequently) lies?

Ontopofthesunset · 05/12/2016 15:10

Ah, yes, your extra-special common sense. And your extra-special listening ears. It's a shame that DJT needs to make it so difficult for people without your finely tuned senses to know when he is lying or telling the truth. When people are joking they usually laugh. Or is that only what puppets do?

claig · 05/12/2016 15:14

'What exactly are his qualifications or his experience in housing and urban development? '

I don't know but Trump selected him, so that is good enough for me.

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BertrandRussell · 05/12/2016 15:16

I reckon Trump saw the word "Urban" so appointed the only black person he knows.....

claig · 05/12/2016 15:17

'Exxon CEO Rex Tillerson Is Now Interviewing to Be Donald Trump’s Secretary of State'

fortune.com/2016/12/05/donald-trump-exxon-rex-tillerson/

I hope Trump picks this guy, because some of the other ones are not too good.

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BertrandRussell · 05/12/2016 15:22

CEO of Exxon???? Jesus Christ- that swamp's draining fast..........not.

OhYouBadBadKitten · 05/12/2016 15:24

ok, if Trump does pick one of the other guys, does that make them good because Trump chose them, or does that mean Trump made a mistake?

claig · 05/12/2016 15:26

Hmm. Tillerson has been quoted as saying "global warming is real". I've gone off him a bit. We will have to wait ad see what happens.

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claig · 05/12/2016 15:28

'ok, if Trump does pick one of the other guys, does that make them good because Trump chose them, or does that mean Trump made a mistake?'

No, it would mean Trump had made a big mistake, or else he is playing a long game that I have not fathomed. There are some bad contenders for that role and it is an important role. Trump fans don't want Romney, but Trump has not yet ruled him out and some of the others aren't very good either.

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OhYouBadBadKitten · 05/12/2016 15:29

I'm relieved to hear you don't think he is infallible!

Missswatch · 05/12/2016 15:30

Fair enough he denies evolution. Surely he accepts the scientific method to do medicinal work. Well he must do, I'm sure if he prescribed faith and prayer rather than pills he'd be out of a job very quickly

SouthallGirl · 05/12/2016 15:32

Claig - Some of those that DT has suprisingly chosen may be of use to his govt in the short term, so long as he keeps them on a tight leash and adequately monitored. If one of them is disloyal, Trump will find out with whom he is being disloyal and who is the puppetmaster of that individual.

claig · 05/12/2016 15:33

'I'm relieved to hear you don't think he is infallible!'

Not infallible at all. I was disappointed that he chose politically correct Nikki Haley, who had been against him during the campaign, as the UN ambassador. But he probably had various reasons, some political etc, we don't know.

Tulsi Gabbard, the Democrat, would be fantastic for Secretary of State and Trump has interviewed her for it, but I don't think she is the main contender. Having seen Tulsi interviewed on Fox, I predict that she will be President of the United States one day without a doubt. She is excellent.

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Missswatch · 05/12/2016 15:34

Imho if people Trump appoint turn out to be bad apples, he'd put his business cap on and replace them

claig · 05/12/2016 15:35

Exactly, SouthallGirl. We don't know all of Trump's motives but we do know that Machiavelli was a dummy compared to Trump, so Trump will probably "keep his friends close and his enemies closer" in order to keep things well under control.

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claig · 05/12/2016 15:37

'he'd put his business cap on and replace them'

Absolutely. He wants to get the job done and will fire if necessary. But he also has to play some politics to keep the Establishment sweet before he takes them to the cleaners.

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claig · 05/12/2016 16:06

Trump's latest tweet is exactly what Inkanta was saying earlier on in the thread

Donald J. Trump ‏@realDonaldTrump 4m

If the press would cover me accurately & honorably, I would have far less reason to "tweet." Sadly, I don't know if that will ever happen!

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