"It certainly was. Not least by Trump himself urging Russia to do it."
"Rigged (before election) - no evidence
Illegal immigrants voting - no evidence
Russian hackers - evidence from CIA and independent security firms"
"It's extraordinary, having the President telling the American people not to listen to what the CIA are saying..........."
Just to roll a few of these posts in together as its been quite a day looking at how the democrats have gone into extreme desperation mode and are throwing everything they can at this. The Russia hacking claims.
Hillary started squeeling about Russia being responsible for the DNC email wikileaks as soon as they were leaked. Rather than acknowledge or address the contents of the mails she squeeled, its Russia!! The democrats continue to squeel its Russia!
In true Trump style, he took the piss, in front of millions, and asked Russia for help finding the other 30,000 mails. It was funny. Even Russia laughed. Thankfully.
(Hillarys course of action was indeed set to agressive war mode on Russia, clearly the democrats would still prefer a war with Russia, than lose an election. You can thank the Trump voters later for avoiding that one)
Anyone now standing up using this as evidence that Trump was publicly requesting Russias' help, are to be honest, nutty as a fruit loop. If Trump was in cahoots with Russia, hed have done it on the secret bat phone, not announced it to the world.
It has been confirmed many times by wikileaks, that the DNC leaks were exactly that. Leaks. Not hacks. Not Russia. Internal leaks, and its strongly beleived that the NSA leaked them.
A former british ambassador has confirmed he knows who 'Guccifer' is who leaked the DNC emails. It wasnt Russia. Have the CIA asked him in for questioning? No. Has the FBI? No. Youd think theyd be interested.
Jill Stein launched several multi-million dollar law suits to demand recounts in various states. She based her recount requests on the 'possibility' there may have been interferance and hacking in the election vote. Yet the CIA, the Democrats, Obama and the Clintons, didnt provide her with their 'evidence' of Russian hacking? Not a jot. Not even a little piece of something to support her? All those donors, spending all that money, and Obama, Clinton and the Dems kept their secret russian evidence secret? Bull shit.
So what does that leave us with? The 'independant security firms' were dismissed as fake a couple of weeks ago (back up the thread to the Wash Post retraction), which leaves the CIA 'evidence'. What evidence? They havent produced any evidence. The FBI say there isnt any evidence.
They demand extradition of an autistic bedroom hacker, yet no one or any organisation has been identified in this world changing farce? Its just 'the russians'?
Yet what is known, is how Obama has used the CIA and intelligence agencies in the past for political purposes. The Intelgate scandal is still ongoing. We also know historically, how intelligence is manipulated for political purposes. Blair did it. Bush did it.
en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Intelgate
Have I missed anything? Oh the rigging questions above.
Yes there is evidence of rigging. The wikileak DNC emails exposed masses of Hillary and the DNC rigging in the election campaign. The DNC chair and 3 further senior DNC officers resigned over it. The DNC also apologised to Bernie Sanders. No one has denied the contents of the DNC wikileak emails were not genuine.
Illegal immigrants voting? That I think the jury is still out on. There is masses of debate about the lack of voter ID and also the difficulties in collating firm data around this, so yes for now, Id agree, theres no clear evidence. However, its fair to point out, that in several states its apparently easy to do, so whose to say it hasnt happened, so perhaps the only answer would indeed be voter ID across the country going forward
In short, if Trump says its ridiculous to suggest Russia are involved in Hillary losing the election, based on what we do know, I absolutely agree with him.
PS Perhaps she should have canvassed in the states she lost. Not rigged her election campaign, and not called half the nation 'deplorables'...... just saying.