Trump (Part 4)

[claig]

Continuing discussion of the Trumpquake and populist rebellions

And you can't say the media lied when they reported that Obama care could be amended, rather than repealed.

So, were you lying when you accused the media of lying about this?

Read this

https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2016/dec/04/google-democracy-truth-internet-search-facebook?CMP=sharebtnn_tw

'Is he prepared to monitor and register white teenagers just in case one goes on a rampage at a school? '

Of course not, just as he won't monitor and register black teenagers or Latino teenagers either. It is a free country you can't just monitor and register everyone in the country because people have rights. It is not some Blairite Big Brother State.

'How about armed white supremacists? Are they extremely vetted too?'

I don't know. You would have to write to the FBI to find out.

'Are white people asked about their political inclinations? '

I woul hope not, that sounds close to a Blairite Big Brother State.

'And those armed and incredibly sexist and abusive Mormon- derived sects?'

I don't know anything about them. All I know is that Mitt Romney is Mormon.

'It looks to me that all Trump is doing is replacing an intellectual elite'

Dixie, I think it is pushing to call the last lot "intellectual". Trump always said he would employ the best business people in the United States who know how to make money and negotiate rather than just political hacks who had donated to the Clinton Foundation or who had been selected by Goldman Sachs to form the majority of Obama's cabinet.

'So, what's the truth here?'

Trump is loose with his language on twitter and in interviews. He means all three and more, that is the way he rolls.

'So, were you lying when you accused the media of lying about this?'

The media was lying because the teams on the BBC and elsewhere were trying to fool the people that Trump had gone back on his promise of scrapping Obamacare. They tried their usual "gotcha" on Trump hoping that the people would fall for it, but just like everything else they tried, it all failed because Trump was too smart for the teams.

"Italy referendum: PM Matteo Renzi suffers heavy defeat, exit polls suggest"

www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-38204189

If you have looked out your window and seen elites running round in a mad daze, now you know why.

Can someone check Guy Verhofstadt's tweets please, unless he has fainted.

Trump is loose with his language on twitter and in interviews. He means all three and more, that is the way he rolls.
That's your interpretation.
Another interpretation can be valid.
Can you link to a dozen MSM sites that said he was not going to repeal Obamacare for sure?

Nothing from Guy at all. Probably a crisis meeting being held at EU HQ about the "populists" who are defeating the servants of the elites.

BBC highly likely to call the populists "white supremacists" but we are now all onto their game. As the Establishment panics, it hurls insults at the people

Of course not, just as he won't monitor and register black teenagers or Latino teenagers either. It is a free country you can't just monitor and register everyone in the country because people have rights. It is not some Blairite Big Brother State.
But he proposed doing it to Muslims. Not just immigrant Muslims.

'Can you link to a dozen MSM sites that said he was not going to repeal Obamacare for sure?'

You can use google, I am watching elites panic and the BBC spin as the Italian news is breaking

BBC highly likely to call the populists "white supremacists"

Have they, though?
That's just spin from you, isn't it?

'But he proposed doing it to Muslims'

Trump has proposed lots of things and their opposite, that is why every world bleeder has assembled a team of 2000 to try and work out what he will do.

You can use google

Clearly my google skills are lacking, but as you accused the media of lying on that, I'm sure you've seen them and can find them easily.
Or was that your own lie?

'Have they, though? '

Has a bear shat in the woods?

Trump has proposed lots of things and their opposite,

Has he?
What was his opposite proposition to monitoring Muslims?

'Have they, though? '

Has a bear shat in the woods

I'm waiting, buy I'm getting spin from you.

Funny that.

'I'm sure you've seen them and can find them easily'

I could do so easily but I am watching the elites panic and the BBC spin manic as the Italian news breaks about the populisti defeating the eliti

'Has he? '

RTFT and RTlastF20 threads. It's all in there, the prognostications, the informations

Indulge me.
I'm sure you'll get tired of the celebrations at some point.
I must get some sleep, so no rush.

You keep avoiding the key quesrions:
"What was his opposite proposition to monitoring Muslims?"

'"What was his opposite proposition to monitoring Muslims?"'

To not monitor Muslims, of course. That's the way Trump rolls, he says one thing one minute, the opposite the next. That's why they can't figure Trump out at the No Faith Foundation. They have never dealt with this level of complexity, they are used to the simpleton Blair.

That's why Blair has thrown the towel in and said

" I no longer understand what is happening in politics"

Blair is out of his depth with Trump, it is like a tiddlywinks player versus a chess grandmaster.

Verhofstadt has just tweeted. He may have fainted and been revived, not sure why it took him so long. Trying to play it as if it is no big deal.

Guy Verhofstadt ‏@GuyVerhofstadt 3m

No wonder Renzi lost. Voters craved the opposite of what he proposed: new ideas in Italian politics #Renzirendum www.facebook.com/GuyVerhofstadt/posts/10155202416855016 …

Guardian can't believe what is happening in the world. Spin no longer working. Elites vewy, vewy angwy, likely to take it out on spinners. Guardian office silent, dismayed, they don't know what the future holds. Brexit, Trump and the populisti, this is their worst nightmare, spin powerless to prevent the people's revolution.

Guardian not using the term "far right", they know the spin no longer works, they watched what happened at the BBC, they have decided to use the real term "populists".

"If the exit polls are correct, the results will be seen as a clear rejection by voters of establishment politics in favour of populist and anti-immigrant forces, much as the UK’s vote in June to leave the European Union and the election last month of Donald Trump in the US were. "

www.theguardian.com/world/2016/dec/04/matteo-renzis-future-in-the-balance-amid-high-turnout-in-italy-referendum

I'm sure you'll get tired of the celebrations at some point as long as the salt keeps flowing there will always be time to celebrate

Nowt wrong with a bit of salt.

Claig on Austria: "So this time, I think it is curtains for the elite and the right will win"

Perhaps you aren't as omniscient on politics as you like to think?