Trump (Part 4)

[claig]

Continuing discussion of the Trumpquake and populist rebellions

in light of some of the most recent posts on this thread, that Sartre quote is uncanny, isn't it

whatever is happening here, it isn't discourse, that is impossible with people who begin from a bad faith position

I guess on the bright side, as we have seen all of this before, maybe we'll be that quicker to respond in meaningful ways

I hope.

Everyone can see what you are claig, every post you make confirms it

Keep on being obvious, you and the rest of your crew

'that is impossible with people who begin from a bad faith position'

From what you would like to do to people, it sounds like you have no faith. You don't work for the Orifice of Tony Blair or the No Faith Foundation, do you?

"From what you would like to do to people, it sounds like you have no faith."

What does this mean?

'Everyone can see what you are claig, every post you make confirms it'

Of course they can. I am a Trump fan, I'm sorry I don't like Blair or his ilk, I don't like Big Brother, they want to take my free speech away.

'Keep on being obvious, you and the rest of your crew'

I will. I am on the Trump Train with the Trump crew. He's the next President of the United States and I like him much better than Blair. Trump will keep us free.

"You will not force us
You will stop degrading us
You will not control us
We will be victorious"

Why do you keep doing links of the same thing claig. That's a second or third outing for that youtube clip. No one is clicking on it, apart from you!

Because it is so good and it shows what the Trump Revolution is all about - freedom and free speech and never letting Blairites grind free people down.

"They will not control us"

As Trump alwasy says "not gonna happen any more"

It is very revealing, claig, that you supported the far right candidate in Austria despite knowing nothing about his politics, purely because you perceived that it would shake up the establishment. Do you remember what happened last time people supported a far right candidate in that part of the world?

Trump's historic 1 hour conversation with Farage in Trump Tower was about

"freedom and winning"

That's what Trump fans like - freedom from people trying to stifle our free speech and call us "racist" or "fascist" for supporting the next President of the United States, the greatest, freest, pro business, pro liberty country on earth. The country that spreads liberty across the globe for the sake of the people and not the elites, the country that laughs in the face of Big Brother and his Stasi servants.

Let me guess WouldHave

Hitler?

Change the record. We've heard this over and over from the losing side

As Claig mentioned freedom of speech. People are sick of censorship from the left. Time for a change

WouldHave, he was interviewed on Sky News, he says he is not "far right", he said he was "middle right" and was less extreme than the current Austrian government.

The media and the spinners at the BBC called Trump "racist" and smeared him with "white supremacism". Don't believe the media, as Trump says, they are " a room full of liars" because they are just Bliars who work for the Establishment, went to the same university as Bliar, did the same course, and want to stop Trump and the worldwide populist revolution returning power to the people, Brexit and democracy and ending rule by unelected, unaccountable elites.

This was Juncker of the EU on Castro

Jean-Claude Juncker Verified account
‏@JunckerEU

With the death of #FidelCastro, the world has lost a man who was a hero for many. europa.eu/rapid/press-release_STATEMENT-16-4042_en.htm …

I prefer Trump and America to the EU. Trump didn't think that the military dictator Castro, who took away people's freedoms and free speech, was a hero

Gawd knows what Bliar tweeted about it. I don't think I dare look.

Trump lied about:
Not grabbing women
Unemployment rate.

Here's two.

Can you tell us now what lies the media have said about Trump's actions after the election and his appointees?

Here is Guy Verhofstadt, EU evangelist, EU MEP who crossed swords hundreds of times wth our own Farage, and Farage beat him every single time. Here is Guy's tweet from today about the Austrian election

Guy Verhofstadt ‏@GuyVerhofstadt 4h

Amazing news from Austria with #VanDerBellen win. EU is stronger than the populists think #IamEuropean

He says "populists" because he knows he can't say "far right" because no one believes him, he knows the BBC tried to call Trump "far right" and so did CNN and all the world bleeders and the entire world establishment and it didn't work because Trump won, so Guy knows he has to say the truth and call the opponents of the EU "populists" rather than "far right facists" because that is obviously untrue.

'Can you tell us now what lies the media have said about Trump's actions after the election and his appointees?'

They said he wouldn't scrap Obamacare and he will

The media and the spinners at the BBC called Trump "racist"

So, he is prepared to register and extreme vetting Muslims. Because of security concerns over Muslim extremist terrorism.

Now, he's in favour of the second ammendment, and not increasing gun regulations. Even though it poses a security risk for the population at large.
Explain how are both positions put together not racist.

Didn't he say he wouldn't?

Has he shown his great plan yet?

""Either Obamacare will be amended, or repealed and replaced," Trump told the newspaper."

Is this quote a lie? And by whom?

What would a candidate have to do or say to be considered "far right" in the view of pro-Hofers on this thread?

'So, he is prepared to register and extreme vetting Muslims. Because of security concerns over Muslim extremist terrorism.

Now, he's in favour of the second ammendment, and not increasing gun regulations. Even though it poses a security risk for the population at large.
Explain how are both positions put together not racist.'

Because at the moment there is a security risk because of Islamic terrorism from Isis, who according to the leaked emails that Wikileaks released were funded by Saudi Arabia and Qatar.

The Second Amendment is in the Constitution and is like a holy document that guarantees the rights of all American citizens. That can't be changed even though the elites would love to change it to circumscribe free speech and the Second Amendment, but the American people won't allow it to be changed easily and nor will Trump so the Second Amendment will remain as it has from when the United States was first formed.

It is not racist to safeguard all citizens rights, including Muslim citizens, by making sure that terrorists don't enter and carry out terrorist acts and it is not racist to retain Second Amendment rights for all Americans, white, black, Latino, Asian and Muslim

'Has he shown his great plan yet?'

Not yet. He has appointed someone to be in charge of Health and he and his Departmemt will sort it out

'""Either Obamacare will be amended, or repealed and replaced," Trump told the newspaper."

Is this quote a lie? And by whom?'

All three are true. Trump is going to replace and repeal the current Obamacare and replace it with an amended healthcare programme.

Is he prepared to monitor and register white teenagers just in case one goes on a rampage at a school?
How about armed white supremacists? Are they extremely vetted too? Are white people asked about their political inclinations?

And those armed and incredibly sexist and abusive Mormon- derived sects?

All three are true. Trump is going to replace and repeal the current Obamacare and replace it with an amended healthcare programme
You either replace or amend, or repeal. He didn't say all three. He said amend "or"replace.

So, what's the truth here?