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Clinton V Trump - into the final three weeks.

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OhYouBadBadKitten · 23/10/2016 16:51

new thread. :)

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OhYouBadBadKitten · 03/11/2016 13:00

that's bloody rich from a country driving out so many syrians and doing little to safeguard the citizens!!!
human rights watch report

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WinchesterWoman · 03/11/2016 13:08

Didn't I tell you about the rape charge. They tried for a presser. I think they got word that the Clinton camp wasn't that desperate yet. Holding for an in flight emergency..

WinchesterWoman · 03/11/2016 13:10

Even the guardian is dubious about this. It's hard to believe they will press conference her.

Marmite59 · 03/11/2016 13:22

Don't panic. Hold firm. We the People will not lose.

Let's hope so eh? Maybe it will be the only way of making people like you take some accountability for the arrant nonsense you so consistently peddle in the name of antiestablishment thinking.

Then, when the USA economy is in the toilet, the jobs don't come back, mass racial hatred erupts, and America slides into despotism you can come on here and tell us whose to blame now.

claig · 03/11/2016 13:23

Yes, you were right. They are desperate. If they do it, it will backfire on them.

claig · 03/11/2016 13:27

'tell us whose to blame now'

I don't think I understand that. Whose what where how when Trump wins?

SerendipityPhenomenon · 03/11/2016 13:29

Surely if the press is as much under Clinton's control as you believe they are not going to report a massive poll lead unless it exists? The last thing she wants is for voters to believe they don't need to bother to vote because she has it in the bag.

Marmite59 · 03/11/2016 13:33

Because you'll do what your hero will do. And what fascists have always done: you'll blame someone else. Because it's always someone else's fault right? The bankers or the Mexicans or the immigrants or Nasty Women. Or liberals or RINOs or east coast or west coast or Jews. Or CNN or NYT or WaPo.

Just listen to yourself. Such a bunch of victims.

claig · 03/11/2016 13:36

Serendipity, it is exactly the same as Brexit - the same tricks, the same type of teams, the same story, the same game

The idea is to discourage the Brexit voters from turning out because the Bank of Mars has told them they are wrong and that the Establishment media polls are reflecting what the people think, that the Establishment is always right and is going to win

The elites and their media are more scared of the people (Trump voters) than they are scared of their own vote not turning out (even though that is also very likely). They make a choice and choose to try and deter the Trumpsters. But as we saw with Brexit where they tried the same, it ain't gonna work.

fourmummy · 03/11/2016 13:43

OYBBKitten - we can't go through it all again, surely?

claig · 03/11/2016 13:57

According to Roger Stone, A Republican operative who has fought 9 Presidential campaigns, the way it works is that near the end of any election there are always about 20% undecideds and they are essentially followers, called "Bandwagon voters" and they tend to want to be on the winning side and want to be with the majority so that they win, just like sports fans support the best team etc

Near the end, the campaigns want to persuade those voters that they should back the candidate that the Establishment polls say is "going to win". But often the people know that the Establishment polls are not telling the true story and have a feeling on the street about who is really going to win. That is why the Establishment roll out their pop stars to try and win those voters back.

"Some Who Saw Change in Obama Find It Now in Donald Trump
...
"Gary Kerns, 42, of Gettysburg, said he had been impressed with Mr. Trump for a long while and called himself a “bandwagon voter” — one who is drawn to the most popular candidates. In 2008, Mr. Kerns voted for Mr. Obama because he was moved by the charismatic young senator’s speeches.

“Obama was blazing hot,” he said. “There was momentum with him, and I got caught up with it. I loved it.”

Now Mr. Kerns, a registered Republican, sees Obama-like energy in Mr. Trump’s candidacy. “Let’s roll with the hot hand,” he said.

www.nytimes.com/2016/11/03/us/politics/obama-donald-trump-voting.html?_r=0

claig · 03/11/2016 14:00

' “Let’s roll with the hot hand,” he said'

The Establishment and their media want to try and convince voters that Hillary has the "hot hand" but everybody knows it ain't so, everybody knows their game, just like in Brexit.

claig · 03/11/2016 14:04

'That is why the Establishment roll out their pop stars to try and win those voters back.'

Have you never wondered why we nearly always see the resurfacing of Bono and Sir Blob whenever the Establishment is on the ropes?

claig · 03/11/2016 14:06

Sorry that should have been Bozo rather than Bono.

claig · 03/11/2016 14:17

Whenever you see Bozo or one of their Sirs or one of their comedians pop up, you know the Establishment is near enough done, but what else can the Establishment do at that point, the "teams" are at thier wits' ends

"Bono: 'Donald Trump Potentially Worst Idea That Ever Happened to America'

"Wise people of conscience should not let this man turn your country into a casino," U2 singer tells Charlie Rose

www.rollingstone.com/music/news/bono-trump-potentially-worst-idea-that-happened-to-us-w441427

'Donald Trump could destroy America': U2's Bono uses Clinton Initiative to deliver hysterical lecture on Republican candidate

www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3798784/Donald-Trump-destroy-America-U2-s-Bono-uses-Clinton-Initiative-deliver-hysterical-lecture-Republican-candidate.html

It has got so desperate that the Guardian's Oxbridge Owen Jones has had to make a desperate appeal to American voters not to vote for Trump.

You just know they're done, we the people have won.

claig · 03/11/2016 14:39

I am fully expecting the "teams" to roll out a final video advert plea to the American people with all the usual faces holding hands and singing kumbaya - Blair, Bozo, Sir Blob, Blizzard, the comedian Steve Cougar, a whole load of Oxbridge Footlights type comedians, charidee bigwigs, UN officials, ex-politicians on the make, the Bank of Mars, the JMF, and from Brussels the bigwigs at the FU.

We know it's desperate, we will have a good laugh, but what else can they do, they are desperate.

Tuesday Nov 8th. Don't miss it. We the people are going to make history.

Lweji · 03/11/2016 14:40

Ah, yes, fourmummy.
My bad.
Putin the human rights activist.
Sure. Grin

Marmite59 · 03/11/2016 14:56

Tuesday Nov 8th. Don't miss it. We the people are going to make history.

Ein volk, ein reich, ein fuhrer. Can't wait to see the show start. When it's on? Mein Kampf or yours?

claig · 03/11/2016 15:03

I call Godwin's Law. It is getting desperate!

RufusTheSpartacusReindeer · 03/11/2016 15:07

WE are not making history

Some of WE cant even vote

Some of WE may not even stay up to watch it

claig · 03/11/2016 15:11

'Some of WE cant even vote'

It doesn't matter. The whole world is united, the whole world awaits

"Ladies and Gentlemen, the next President of the United States - Donnnald JJJJJ Trummmmmp"

Keith Vaz as almost in tears on Brexit night, imagine the tears in high places and perches across the world and the jubilation of the people!

Gumpendorf · 03/11/2016 15:16

Oh Claig, a people's revolution has only ever resulted in an autocracy. Different elites maybe but still elites.

Please come back and tell us when the disillusionment sets in Smile

claig · 03/11/2016 15:22

'Different elites maybe but still elites. '

Yes, but hopefully ones that are closer to the people, where there is less insider 1% pay for play charidee corruption and spin

All anybody wants is a bit of common sense for a change, a bit of listening to the people instead of having a Cabinet picked by Citigroup and having to listen to and watch Blair and the bankers preach to the people. Just an ounce of common sense, is that too much to ask for?

RufusTheSpartacusReindeer · 03/11/2016 15:24

I wont be jubilaent

I think a lot of WE wont be jubilant

Smile
RufusTheSpartacusReindeer · 03/11/2016 15:25

Oooohhh love Sad

Please dont pin your request for common sense on trump winning

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