Clinton V Trump - into the final three weeks.

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new thread. :)

Although it is interesting that more people bet on Trump to win than on Hillary

"PaddyPower told CNNMoney it paid the 6,000 British and Irish gamblers who placed their bets on Clinton before 1:30 p.m. on Tuesday. According to the website, 10,000 people bet on Trump.
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There's always room for a surprise. The recent trend of nationalism and anti-globalization has defied the odds.

For example, in the run-up to Britain's pivotal vote to remain or exit the European Union, PaddyPower listed odds showed a 90% chance of staying in the EU. Then Brexit happened."

The Establishment and their mainstream media were wrong over Brexit. Trump gets huge crowds, Hillary doesn't. The Establishment may lose yet again, we will have to wait and see if the people win.

Small bets, claig.
You know, the kind that people put in just in case because it would give a good return?
The biggest bet was on Clinton.

"Most of the big money bet on Clinton, but there were lots of tiny bets on Trump."

The Establishment may lose yet again, we will have to wait and see if some of the people win

Corrected that for you claig . It's not all the people is it?!

'The biggest bet was on Clinton.

"Most of the big money bet on Clinton, but there were lots of tiny bets on Trump."'

Absolutely, the Establishment, the big money, the highly paid servants and the bankers bet on Hillary, the people bet on Trump. We will have to wait and see if the Establishment and the bankers lose on Nov 8th.

It looks like the usual Establishment game. They always do it. They tried it in Brexit so that the media would report favourably for them against the people. They get the bankers and the high rollers and the servants to put big money on Remain so that the media can report good odds for Remain.

"U.K. Bookmakers See Surge of Bets on a Donald Trump Victory—Just Like Brexit

65% of all bets on the market have backed Trump to win the U.S. presidential election"

time.com/4536465/donald-trump-bet-victory-brexit/

The ordinary people placed small bets on Brexit and Trump, the metropolitan elite round up their mates to bet on Remain.

Plus ca change, plus ca Trump

They told us the few days before Brexit that the stock market was going up as it looked like Cameron and the Team would win. If you understand their game, you know how they work, they always do the same, it's the people they try to blame. The people laughed at their stock market prognostications, at their BBC reported bookie fantastifications, they took pens instead of pencils to the voting booths and made sure the Establishment were going to lose.

claig, you do know the difference between an electoral college system and a first past the post poll, don't you?

Absolutely, I know and so do Trump and his team. Don't believe the mainstream, they are in the tank for the Establishment. Look at the crowds of people turning up for Trump in the electoral college key states and then look at the groups who turn up for Hillary.

Professor Norpoth, who has called the election correctly the last 5 times, stands by his prediction that Trump has an 87% chance of winning. Establishment, media, experts, servants, all in the tank, all disagree. Who will win? The Establishment or the people?

Snagging.

It's very simple to say The Establishment versus The People. It's not really that is it, if it was, Trump wouldn't be behind in the polls would he...

Interesting piece on realclearpolitics re destroying the media

You have finally got it right, claig.

Considering the original is
Plus ça change, plus c'est la même chose

Your sentence sounds about right
Plus ça change, plus ça Trump

Nothing changes.

It will be the first time the wealthy have done it for the democrats. High earner 100k+ and 250k + were polled.

nypost.com/2016/10/18/hillarys-open-borders-dream-is-a-nightmare-for-workers/ New York Post

www.nytimes.com/2016/10/23/business/rich-vote-republican-not-this-election-maybe.html?_r=1
NYT - for the first time the wealthy will deliver a Democrat victory

www.zerohedge.com/news/2016-10-24/concern-grows-over-soros-linked-voting-machines

I'd like to know where Trump's campaign polls are, showing how far ahead he is.
Don't campaigns have private polls?
They don't seem too happy?
Maybe they are only polling his Establishment billionaire friends (or fiends, not sure).

Good link - why is it always the democrats that object to dead people being removed from registers? or photo id at polling centres?

Clinton's private polls get written up as independent
basically most of the media is her private polling resource

'It has been very hard to discuss policies when Trump is involved and made a key of his campaign to insult and accuse his opponents of everything and anything he can think of (largely untrue). And when his policies are incredibly vague. Even Obama would have found it difficult to campaign on policy with him.'

pjmedia.com/diaryofamadvoter/2016/10/22/if-the-election-were-about-trumps-gettysburg-policies-he-would-win-in-a-landslide/

It's really the other way around. He's been insulted and accused of everything and anything others could think of. Accusations against Clinton are not 'largely untrue'. There's a lot of evidence to support them. It's just it doesn't get reported.

townhall.com/columnists/derekhunter/2016/10/23/why-i-now-feel-compelled-to-vote-for-trump-n2235899

This one's for Claig

Extract:

In a field of 17 Republican candidates, Donald Trump wouldn’t have been my 18th choice. I’m still not a fan. But they didn’t just ask me; they asked everyone. And more of everyone chose Donald Trump. So what changed?
Not Trump. He still gives rambling speeches with little focus and spends far too much time defending himself against insignificant slights when he should be focusing on policy (though his ethics reform proposal is excellent and will irritate all the people in Washington who need to be irritated).
Hillary hasn’t changed either. At least not in who she is – a corrupt, self-serving liar willing to do or say anything to win and/or sell out to the highest bidder. There isn’t enough Saudi Arabian money in the Clinton Foundation to get me to vote for someone who got rich off “public service” and a “commitment to helping the poor.” No, what’s changed is me…through watching the sickening display of activism perpetrated by a covert army with press credentials. ..2016 saw the remaining veneer of credibility, thin as it was, stripped away and set on fire. I can’t sit idly by and allow these perpetrators of fraud to celebrate .. Essentially, I am voting for Trump because of the people who don’t want me to, and I believe I must register my disgust with Hillary Clinton.

ON the polls theconservativetreehouse.com/2016/10/11/media-polling-fully-exposed-about-that-nbcwsj-clinton-11-point-poll/

Geoff Garin, Hart Research Associate President, served as the pollster for obama's super pac - currently playing a similar role for Hillary's super pac

not written up as a private poll but as an independent more authoritative poll

Brexit was a vote against the Establishment, so the risk of Trump getting in seems high to me.

Project Veritas Action have released part 3 of the vote rigging series. They think it is a big deal. I don't understand it, it doesn't seem like a clincher to me. All of the mainstream media ignored it before release, so I guess they will afterwards too.