Clinton V Trump - into the final three weeks.

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new thread. :)

I mean Labour members get it. They resoundingly rejected Owen Smith and the 172, the Blairites and the spinners. They couldn't take it any more. I understand it, I've seen the 172, what else could Labour members do?

There you go. There's your new dawn right there. When America erupts into an orgy of hate I look forward to your mea culpa.

There is no hate from Trump fans.

A 64 year old homeless black woman who guarded Trump's Star of Fame in Hollywood was attacked by thugs after a millionaire heir to a fortune smashed the $30,000 star up with a pickaxe

"Homeless woman now guarding Donald Trump's Hollywood Walk of Fame star after millionaire activist smashed it up"

www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3882298/Homeless-woman-guarding-Donald-Trump-s-Hollywood-Walk-Fame-star-millionaire-activist-smashed-up.html

The hate doesn't come from Trump supporters.

The mainstream media won't show it or find the culprits because they are all in the tank for Hillary.

The hate doesn't come from Trump supporters.

It comes from lots of sides, but I'm afraid that it started off with Trump himself.

Sorry that should have been Bozo rather than Bono.

Yeah, not hate at all there.

'Yeah, not hate at all there.'

Taking the piss is not hate. Sir Blob is not hate, it is mocking him as is Bozo and Bliar. Are we no longer allowed to take the piss in the Establishment's politically correct world?

How is mocking not hate?

You don't particularly like pps mocking you either.

Just an ounce of common sense, is that too much to ask for?
I'm with you on a more equal, transparent society but there is no way on earth thatTrump is going to deliver that.

The mainstream media won't show it or find the culprits because they are all in the tank for Hillary.

That is what Trump wants you to believe, but it's not true. Partly or mainly because his 'entertainment value' is propping up a mainstream media which is dying, Trump is good for business. They also know he is vindictive and now the race has tightened they are hedging their bets.

'How is mocking not hate?'

What a strange question. I know you don't have much of a sense of humour but surely you know the difference?

'You don't particularly like pps mocking you either.'

I don't mind. I don't mock people personally to their faces or on here. I am not like you. I mock bigwigs and the elite in general, but if I met Blair I wouldn't mock him because it is impolite.

Obama talking to Samantha Bee (not about Halloween)

"When men are ambitious, it's just taken for granted. Well, of course they should be ambitious. But when women are ambitious... Why? That theme will continue throughout her presidency and I think it contributed somehow to this notion that she's hiding something."

Spooky story for Halloween? Donald Trump for President.

I am not like you. I mock bigwigs and the elite in general

So, you mock people behind their backs? It may not be impolite, but it's not great. :)

I'd rather make fun of people to their faces, so they can reply accordingly. Or of myself (not that there's anything to mock about me, ever. Oh, no).

Mocking can be used to put people down, so it does imply hate, at least to some extent.
Bozo is derogatory, it's not even mocking, as it's completely gratuitous in the context that you used it, for example. Trump has made full use of this throughout, and has derailed the campaign from discussing issues to attacking people. And you too.

'Partly or mainly because his 'entertainment value' is propping up a mainstream media which is dying, Trump is good for business.'

Absolutely. They put him on hoping he will trip up and say something stupid (which of course he never does), but they have a script written for them by their teams of whizzkids and that is that he is a racist, sexist bigot and therefore anything that doesn't fit that script is not shown by them. That is why they won't show the homeless black woman guarding Trump's star of fame after an elite heir to a fortune smashed it up and after which she was attacked by people who dislike Trump.

The media elites don't want their voters to see Trump's real support or to see him in a good light because the Establishment is petrified of what he is going to do to the lot of them after he wins.

'So, you mock people behind their backs? '

Yes, I don't mock people when talking to them or when writing on here. I mock the high and mighty, the shifty and the flighty, in the spirit of comedy and mockery to give balance. That is in the tradition of our great political cartoonists who have been doing that for centuries.

'I'd rather make fun of people to their faces, so they can reply accordingly. '

Yes, well I am not like you. I don't like to personally insult anyone. I mock only the high and mighty because they are capable of taking it and I would never do it to their faces because no one deserves that.

'Mocking can be used to put people down, so it does imply hate, at least to some extent. '

It has got nothing to do with hate. It is putting them down off their pedestal just as Trump will do when he beats them.

'Bozo is derogatory, it's not even mocking, as it's completely gratuitous in the context that you used it, for example. Trump has made full use of this throughout, and has derailed the campaign from discussing issues to attacking people. And you too.'

Bozo is a play on words because he calls himself Bono, which means good, and Bozo means idiot. It is a humorous play on words and taking him off his pedestal.

I know why you used Bozo.
But there's a meaning to it and an intention behind it, which is more of hate than humour.
It's like always using Crooked Hillary.
You may notice that even though criticising Trump, it's rare that he's mocked in the same way.

It has nothing to do with hate. When people says "Bliar" for Blair, that is not hate, it is the truth. To call someone a dickhead or a buffoon or a bozo or a twit is not hate.

To say that Libertarian Presidential candidate, Gary Johnson, is a bozo because he said "What is Aleppo?" is not hate, it is the truth.

'It's like always using Crooked Hillary. '

"Crooked Hillary" is not hate the Establishment's PC brigade can't sue Trump for hate, it is a moniker used to highlight her crookedness.

'You may notice that even though criticising Trump, it's rare that he's mocked in the same way.'

Because there is no moniker that can be used to mock Trump. The Establishment call him racist and sexist, but they have no moniker for him because none will work because none is based on truth.

The Oxbridge comedian, John Oliver, tried his best to create a moniker to mock Trump - Drumpf. It was hoped that it could be used by the Establishment and their media, but unfortunately for him and the teams it had no traction as it is not based on truth.

Nicknames and monikers like Bozo, Bliar, Lyin' Ted, Low Energy Jeb and Crooked Hillary only work if they are based on universal truths.

Hardly based on universal truths. :) Just repeated enough and by some people who like to put people down instead of discussing the issues. No matter how famous they are or not. It shuts down the issues immediately.

Also, it would be hard to home in on a moniker for Trump. There's so many to choose from, that it gets diluted.

'Just repeated enough and by some people who like to put people down instead of discussing the issues. '

What you seem to have missed is that the nickname is the issue, the issue is Hillary's crookedness which is why Trump's use of "Crooked Hillary", "Crooked Hillary and the Gang" or just "Crooked" by which one word all of America immediately understands that he means Hillary is getting to the heart of the most important issue, that she is crooked.

It is the same with Bliar. With Bliar everything that could be said about Blair is said in one single word. It is pure genius. The 172 don't like it because they know it hits the mark.

They have nothing on Trump. They are "out of ammo". Their best Oxbridge comedians failed to come up with a word to describe him because they have nothing on him.

The elite are talking about bringing Blair back, they are threatening us with his "return". But can you imagine if we had one politician with guts who just referred to him constanty as Bliar, as Trump would undoubtedly do? That would immediately end the "return of Blair" because the whole public know it is true.

It wouldn't then matter how much mockney, how many pregnant pauses, how many trained hand and thumb gestures Blair used in a speech written for him by teenage whizzkids, just the one word "Bliar" would end his entire "return", would spare the people from having to listen to more of him and his prewritten spin, and the Establishment would be back to square one and would have to look for someone else to spin for them.

They rolled Blair out in Brexit, and the people rolled on the floor laughing.
The more he lectured us in mockney, the more we mocked him and had a laugh.

The Establisment thought Blair would help stop Brexit, but they found to their chagrin in their secret internal polling, that everytime he opened his mouth or showed his face that the Brexit polls went off the Richter scale and Vote Leave said he was their saving grace.

claig

I have to know what do you do for a living (obviously feel free not to tell me )

Is it something to do with writing...or words?

Give me a clue

'Is it something to do with writing...or words?'

No, it is nothing to do with that.
I only found out I like playing with words when I started to post on MN.
I like having a laugh and words are a great way to paint a picture, but I never knew that before MN.

Please don't be like the wizard of oz. Too heartbreaking. Perhaps one shouldn't peak behind the curtain.

You def don't seem like a journalist. Prose is magnificent but not Neat And Clean

I agree winchester

You certainly have a way with words claig