Clinton V Trump - into the final three weeks.

[OhYouBadBadKitten]

new thread. :)

He's not calling anyone's bluff. He's bluffing himself.
His whole campaign has been about bigging himself up and destroying the other candidates.
This campaign never had a chance to be about the issues.

'His whole campaign has been about bigging himself up and destroying the other candidates. '

It is a freestyle rap battle. Trump is the champ and the elite are the chumps. The elite have hired all their Establishment pop stars, all their Hollywood movie stars and Establishment comedians to try and stop Trump, but it won't work, the people are wise to it.

Trump called him "Low Energy" Jeb, "Liddle Marco" Rubio, "Lyin' Ted" Cruz and "Crooked Hillary"

The man is a political genius, He has torn up the Oxbridge politics playbook, sacked all the advisers and teams and said "Let Trump be Trump" and the people flock to the rallies and the Guardian is helpless and hopeless as ever.

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When they have to bring Bono out to help the Establishment or when Blair is wheeled out in desperation, then you know the Establishment are done, just like when they resorted to their patronising last hope in Brexit of calling on the services of Eddie Blizzard and Sir Blob Gumdrop.

Trump has them on the ropes, the elite are on the deck and the referee is about to count them out. The people are on their feet cheering for Trump, the Establishment are down and out.

Sheriff David Clarke explains how Trump is playing the elite media with the classic Ali Shuffle and the "rope a dope"

Curious - are any of the Trump fanatics on this thread actually able to vote for him? If not, what is your interest?

I can't vote for him. My interest is that Trump is about to change the whole world because he is going to beat the elites and when he does, the rug will be pulled out from them worldwide and that will lead to changes here in England and everywhere. The people will win everywhere and all the useless, stupid policies that serve the elite and not the people will end everywhere.

If he beats the elites and takes the place up there won't he be the new elite, whatever that means, and then it'll all be the same again.

Besides we had change here, and if it all changed against well be back to square one.

ChardonnayKnickertonSmythe, yes Trump will become the new elite and some of teh old crooked elite will probably be locked up and go to jail. But it won't be the sme again, becaue Trump is changing the entire world's direction, he will put America First and as he said

“We will no longer surrender this country or its people to the false song of globalism. The nation-state remains the true foundation for happiness and harmony.”

That is Brexit x 10. The elite have lost. Jobs will return, the people's wages will increase, prosperity will return, crooks will be out of power, the enrichment of the 1% at the expense of the people will end.

It is good for us because we are in the slipstream of the United States and what happens there will to some extent happen here too and as America wins again, we will win again too.

The days of Citigroup choosing Obama's cabinet are over. The days of the politicial class enriching themselves with pay for play in their charidees are over. Accountability, transparency and common sense will return.

The loss of our liberties with the encroaching olitical correctness pushed by the elites will end.

We will all be liberated and a tremendous surge of energy and optimism will return and the economy will grow and people's lives will improve.

As Camille Paglia said

"This idea that Trump represents such a threat to western civilisation — it’s often predicted about presidents and nothing ever happens — yet if Trump wins it will be an amazing moment of change because it would destroy the power structure of the Republican party, the power structure of the Democratic party and destroy the power of the media. It would be an incredible release of energy… at a moment of international tension and crisis.’

All of a sudden, the professor seems excited. Perhaps, like all radicals in pursuit of the truth, Paglia is still hoping the revolution will come."

www.spectator.co.uk/2016/10/the-woman-is-a-disaster-camille-paglia-on-hillary-clinton/

It is over for the crooks, it is over for their teams, it is over for their lies and their spin.

RealClearPolitics has the map at 273 to 265 now. That's ridiculously close.

www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2016/president/2016_elections_electoral_college_map_no_toss_ups.html

As more polls refresh it seems inevitable that Trump will take the lead.

This is well worth reading and maybe warrants a comment from claig and WW...

'I come from the land of Trump, and I know why he’s winning in rural communities; it’s not why you think
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And right now, coal miners and their families and the communities in which they live are facing an unprecedented economic shift for which they weren’t prepared. In fact, they were systematically and strategically made to be unprepared for it, and now, with their backs being forced against the wall, my people are scared.

I’m scared, too."

Of course they are scared, scared that the country is declining, scared that their livelihoods will be gone, scared that they won't be able to find well-paid jobs, scared that the elite crooks and the 1% and the political class of insiders exposed in Wikileaks will sell ther futures out and ship their jobs to Mexico and China to make the bankers, who decide the makeup of Obama's Cabinet, rich. That is why they are voting for Trump, to end the rigged system.

She is scared too, but thinks that the status quo, Hillary and the bankers and Wall Street are better than Trump. That is the great thing about democracy. Everyone has a right to choose. She is outnumbered in Kentucky where most of the people prefer Trump. That's democracy and all the tricks of the elite and calling ordinary people who oppose the crooks "deplorable" can't take their right to vote away and can't subvert democracy, however hard they may try or wish it wasn't that way.

Just to bring balance to your argument claig, I show why she is scared.

"I’m scared of the extremist, racist, sexist and homophobic rhetoric coming from the Trump campaign that has fanned flames of hate. I’m afraid it is quickly building to a crescendo of violent, armed rebellion. I’m scared for my communities. I fear they will be left further and further behind if Trump is elected. I’m afraid that our schools will never be able to catch up, and that our children’s hopes and dreams and futures will be squandered because a Trump presidency will leave no room for them in its education plan. I’m terrified that my people will continue to die at an alarming pace from diseases thrust upon them by the very coal industry to which they’ve been told to cling. A Trump presidency will not only prevent access to their hard-earned benefits, it will continue to cut what has been made available to them.
I’m scared for all the Appalachian women and girls I know — strong, proud, resilient, intelligent women. I’m afraid their potential will be cut off at the knees under a Trump presidency. I’m afraid their lives and their safety and their increasing confidence to end the silence of violence will be threatened with impunity and without fear of retribution. I’m afraid their access to reproductive healthcare — birth control and regular cancer screenings — will become a thing of the not-too-distant past. I’m scared that the lost generation of people who’ve succumbed to drug addiction will continue to grow because Trump cannot bring coal back — no one can — and he has no plan to help us rebuild our communities when the last ton is shipped away. We need opportunities for people who have hit the bottom, and Trump cannot provide them.
I am scared of a Trump victory, because if I’ve learned anything from growing up in the shadow of coal mining, it’s that rich men who talk a lot about themselves mine our wealth and take it elsewhere when they’re done.
I feel completely threatened by a Trump presidency, in almost every way. I fear we Appalachians will lose ourselves and our communities, and I also fear that my civil liberties will slowly be eroded — that gay marriage and women’s rights will be rolled back, and that the economy will tank, which will leave me and my community even further behind than we already are. Perhaps what I fear most is that the national dialogue and cultural climate will shift in a way that puts me and my family at risk, where open discrimination of the LGBT community and of women and of any person with any difference than those whose leader controls the power is not only welcomed, but encouraged."

Yes, and she can choose to vote for Hillary if she thinks Hillary will be better than Trump. But the majority of people where she lives in Kentucky think Trump will be better, and Trump has LGBT supporters as well.

REally?

"Trump has said he would “strongly consider” appointing judges that would overturn SCOTUS’ same-sex marriage ruling. In June, he had a private meeting with over 400 of the most homophobic, bigoted and powerful anti-LGBT leaders in the country and has been a champion of “religious freedom” rhetoric used to discriminate against LGBT people. In addition, Pence has a long history of LGBT intolerance, including opposing foreign governments’ efforts to decriminalize homosexuality, opposing repealing “Don’t Ask, Don’t Tell” and leading a crusade against LGBT rights as governor of Indiana"

Yeah... right....

Trump has LGBT supporters as well.

Are they masochists as well?

Milo
Twinkies for trump

Also some lgbt people dislike Islam homophobia

He (or his supporters) use the line that she takes money from countries that criminalise gay people.

There are these people - www.facebook.com/LGBTrump/ also

Also I'm not aware homophobic rhetoric he has used? Prepared to be corrected but maybe a Clinton supporter knows?

There you go WW.

Interesting... that FB page has 4,800 likes - that's out of 9million LBGT people in the US. Speaks for itself doesn't it...

Half of those aren't homophobic. Caitlyn Jenner isn't even homosexual.

But thanks for the link. Very helpful.

The other half is too much though

They looked desperate some of them. Is that the worst 'homophobic rhetoric' they could find? Is any of it even rhetoric? Like the guy leaving his wife for a guy, that is flat coarse and ignorant but I wouldn't call it rhetoric. I don't think it's homophobic either it's just shallow to me.