Clinton V Trump - into the final three weeks.

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new thread. :)

Ed Klein on Fox today about why Comey did what he did, revolt in the FBI etc and Comey asking the DOJ's Loretta Lynch "are you ordering me to keep this bombshell secret?" and she said nothing. Possibility that Comey may have even resigned 7 days before the election. Panic aong the elites.

So, hiding emails is bad, right?

"Donald Trump’s Companies Destroyed Emails in Defiance of Court Orders"

europe.newsweek.com/donald-trump-companies-destroyed-emails-documents-515120?utm_source=social&utm_medium=facebook&utm_campaign=%2Fdonald-trump-companies-destroyed-emails-documents-515120

Also, what's up with servers?
"Was a Trump Server Communicating With Russia?"

www.slate.com/articles/news_and_politics/cover_story/2016/10/was_a_server_registered_to_the_trump_organization_communicating_with_russia.html

The plot thickens.

WE had that link about those allegations earlier. Lucky he wasn't secretary of state at the time or the media might have been in uproar.

oh..wait…

Still any publicity is good publicity - that sure makes me want to vote for him

'Also, what's up with servers?'

All been debunked. Google has it all. Desperate mainstream media trying to save their candidate. People wise to the Establishment.

Mainstram media telling us that the Russians have a tape of Trump in an orgy in Moscow that they are blackmailing him with. Everyone knows that Trump would want it published if they had it. Desperate stuff, elite's last gasp, as Ben Shapiro said they are "out of ammo".

I thought the FBI had cleared the Trump Russia thing? While HIllary's in it up to her neck with the uranium?

Wallis of Windsor just said this on another thread I heard long time ago (when I was hanging out certain circles)I heard that the President of the United States is pre determined- in other words- it's probably been decided who will be Commander of the USA.

What do you think

'What do you think?'

Very possible. I thought Kerry folded way too easily, didn't look gutted, I thought McCain was intended to lose and although I like Sarah Palin, I thought it was a set up so that the Republicans would lose.

Ours are probably similar. Miliband didn't look to me as if his heart was in it.

Usually, it is just Establishment vs Establishment so it is probably already decided between them. They are all "career politicians", the top ones keep their seats and pensions and vote for whatever war they are asked to vote for.

Trump is an outsider, not a "politician", not Establishment, he has insulted and mocked the lot of them and threatened to "lock her up" and reopen the 911 investigation, scrap the globalists' free trade deals and put the wind up every puppet politician and world leader on earth, so it looks like he is for real, but it could also be a game, we will have to wait and see.

hmm thanks for your reply

I have had the odd horrible thought that it is just a set up and the shadow government planned this all along

one could drive oneself mad

In fact, Trump says that Romney choked in 2012 and went AWOL during the last month or two and didn't even do many events, rallies and TV interviews. At least Trumo is wrking, doing 3 or 4 rallies a day, while he says that Hillary is home having nap. I remember Romney's first debate where he thrashed Obama and then Obama beat him in the 2nd. The difference in debates was strange as if Obama wasn't even trying in the first one and then turned it on for the second.

Yes, usually the Shadow Government doesn't care because they run the show anyway and can control the front people who are all Oxbridge or Establishment etc

It is possible that this time it is different, that just like Brexit, the Establishment will be defeated by the people in this global populist uprising that is spreading across the world and that frightens all the elites and the Guardian and the Oxbridge teams who call it "post-truth" politics because their spin no longer works and no longer fools the people.

But it could be the elite being very clever and giving the people what they want i.e. opposition to the Estblishment, but in a phoney form, a controlled form that cons the people.

That is what the elite did with Obama. The people wanted "hope and change" that he promised, but as Wikileaks showed, his cabinet was picked for him by Citigroup before he even started and he did what the bankers wanted and bailed them out and appointed them to top positions and carried on with what the Establishment wanted which is why there is now such a rebellion against the Establishment that has led to Trumo defeating 16 Establishment Republicans and taking on Establishment Hillary, the Establishment's last hope to save themselves.

But the Establishment may be using Trump, like they used Obama, and may trick the people once again.

Plus ca change

the Guardian and the Oxbridge teams who call it "post-truth" politics because their spin no longer works and no longer fools the people.

thank goodness someone else said it - I'm sick of 'post truthism'
it's so predictable

But the Establishment may be using Trump, like they used Obama, and may trick the people once again. if this is true then life is hell

' I'm sick of 'post truthism''

It's classic Oxbridge whizzkid spin, used by the Guardian to insult the people and their populist rebellion and denigrate it as if it is all a sham, based on a pack of lies amd mistruths and only the Guardian and the Oxbridge teams and the BBC have the truth and speak the truth and the oiks who beat them alk in Brexit are "post-truth" liars.

It is just more of their spin but what they have failed to realise, and what they wil be shocked by whem Trump beats them, is that their spin no longer works on the people because the people know the truth and it is not their lies. It is too late for the elites to shut the barn door, the dove of freedom has already flown, the people know the truth which is why Trump calls the media crooked and corrupt and the crowds shout "lock her up".

'if this is true then life is hell'

Things keep getting worse and worse, the corrupt system gets worse and worse until nature forces equilibrium, the people finally beat the elites as they did in Brexit and then the elites are forced to change and adapt.

The elites are fighting tooth and nail to stop Trump, Francois Hollande says Trump "makes him retch", but they are all up against the people who understand the media game and the rigged game, so change is going to come and equilibrium will come and the elites are powerless to stop it.

"Citigroup chose Obama’s 2008 cabinet, WikiLeaks document reveals

One month before the presidential election of 2008, the giant Wall Street bank Citigroup submitted to the Obama campaign a list of its preferred candidates for cabinet positions in an Obama administration. This list corresponds almost exactly to the eventual composition of Barack Obama’s cabinet."

www.wsws.org/en/articles/2016/10/15/wiki-o15.html

They are having a laugh.

But they aren't laughing about Trump. He is going to lock some crooks up.

Oh gosh how awful about Citigroup
I have money on trump too

So no-one wants to say why they want in the White House the misogynist abuser with a dodgy business past who refuses to produce his tax returns or put his businesses into a blind trust? I think that speaks volumes.

'I have money on trump too'

Well done. If it is fair, I think Trump will win. The only downside is this talk of machines possibly flipping and rigging, but hopefully none of that will happen.

'Oh gosh how awful about Citigroup'

Yes. Wall Street, the hedge funds and Soros all backed Obama and now they are backing Hillary. But Trump is outsmarting them all and he is not "bought and paid for" as he is his own billionaire.

"Professor who’s predicted 30 years of presidential elections correctly is doubling down on a Trump win

Last month, the man who's tried to turn vote prediction into a science predicted a Trump win.

Allan J. Lichtman, distinguished professor of history at American University, said Democrats would not be able to hold on to the White House.
...
The second qualification is Donald Trump. We have never seen someone who is broadly regarded as a history-shattering, precedent-making, dangerous candidate who could change the patterns of history that have prevailed since the election of Abraham Lincoln in 1860.
...
I do think this election has the potential to shatter the normal boundaries of American politics and reset everything, including, perhaps, reset the keys to the White House. Look, I’m not a psychic. I don’t look at a crystal ball. The keys are based on history. And they’re based on a lot of changes in history, they’re very robust. But there can come a time when change is so cataclysmic that it changes the fundamentals of how we do our politics, and this election has the potential — we don’t know yet, but it has the potential."

www.washingtonpost.com/news/the-fix/wp/2016/10/28/professor-whos-predicted-30-years-of-presidential-elections-correctly-is-doubling-down-on-a-trump-win/

This election looks real. The Establishment and their media are no longer in control. Francois Hollande is "retching", elites are panicking and puppets across the globe are going potty. This election has the potential to change the entire world.

We the People are going to win and we can thank the American people for delivering change for all of us across the planet.

I don't think DT is outsmarting them, but something on a societal level is clearly at play.
DT has a lot of expectations on his shoulders now, either by design or by accident. It will be interesting to witness whether he has the tenacity, patience and fortitude to deliver these expectations.

Joel Pollack has an honest piece on whether huge rallies will mean anything in the end

Do you serendipity? That's so interesting

Claig and WW (as far as I'm aware) don't actually have a vote in the US election. In many respects their arguments are pointless. The voters (who can) will decide the fate of the USA, and rightfully so.

ToujeoQueen, the whole world is watching this election. It doesn't matter if we have a vote, nor do billions of people and elites across the planet, but they are all trying to work out who will win and what it will mean. We all live on the one planet, and what happens in America affects all of us.

The journalists at the Guardian don't have a vote but there are PPEs at the Guardian who are panicking!