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Clinton V Trump - into the final three weeks.

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OhYouBadBadKitten · 23/10/2016 16:51

new thread. :)

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Lweji · 28/10/2016 20:55

Interesting comment today about how Trump doesn't need anybody's money.
Yet, his campaign manager (and Trump) is complaining that they don't have enough money to face up to Clinton.

He's not that independent, is he? He has needed the Republican machine from the beginning.

WinchesterWoman · 28/10/2016 20:59

Claig isn't it true that he hasn't had that much gop cash

WinchesterWoman · 28/10/2016 21:00

I still think he has cut a deal with comey. Could they all be nine Bob notes?

PipesTheGhost · 28/10/2016 21:03

So, if I read this right, Obama is covering his back?

WinchesterWoman · 28/10/2016 21:04

Well that's according to me sitting at home eating pizza and watching a movie Grin that's my theory

claig · 28/10/2016 21:05

'He's not that independent, is he? He has needed the Republican machine from the beginning.'

He didn't need the Republican machine in the primaries because he was self-funding to beat the 16 Establishment candidates and the Republican elite were against him anyway. After he won, he needs their money and they aren't giving it to him. Hillary is outspending him hugely because Wall Street, the globalists, the media, hedge funds are all supporting her and many are funding her. He can't compete on money terms. He also does not have a sophisticated ground game, unlike the Democrat machine, and many Republicans are refusing to support him.

Bitofacow · 28/10/2016 21:06

Claig "The Russian revolution was not the people."

Which revolution would that be? Please specify.

fourmummy · 28/10/2016 21:06

there is lots of talk that Obama can't stand the Clintons.

I read today that the Obamas didn't ever have the Clintons over to the White House as a couple and can't stand them. But why would he stick the knife in now? What would be the point?

claig · 28/10/2016 21:09

'Claig isn't it true that he hasn't had that much gop cash'

"RNC TV ad spending for Trump: $0

The national party breaks with tradition of spending millions on ads supporting its nominees"

www.politico.com/story/2016/10/rnc-donald-trump-ad-spending-229711

WinchesterWoman · 28/10/2016 21:09

I did not know that - thec2008 hangover?

WinchesterWoman · 28/10/2016 21:10

Perhaps he blames her for birtherismalso past democrat racism.

claig · 28/10/2016 21:12

'But why would he stick the knife in now? What would be the point?'

From what I have heard and read, the Clintons were pissed when Hillary lost to him and they treated him disrespectfully. He refused to allow Hillary's aide, Sidney Blumenthal, in the White House because of some nasty rumours spread by the Clinton team. From what Roger Stone says, he thinks it is personal.

WinchesterWoman · 28/10/2016 21:15

Bill Clinton said - when they were fighting for the ticket - that Obama would have been carrying their bags a few years earlierShock

Lweji · 28/10/2016 21:15

It seems that in that case many people have to cover their backs, all the way back to the W. administration.

www.theguardian.com/us-news/2016/feb/04/colin-powell-condoleezza-rice-private-email-accounts-classified-hillary-clinton

Considering the problem as the private server, then Republicans in office should also be careful.
www.msnbc.com/rachel-maddow-show/the-republicans-who-did-exactly-what-hillary-did

WinchesterWoman · 28/10/2016 21:17

Classic guardian. I see no elephant in the corner.

claig · 28/10/2016 21:21

'It seems that in that case many people have to cover their backs'

There is a suggestion Obama lied about not knowing that Hillary had a private server.

‘We Need to Clean This Up’: More Evidence Obama Lied about Hillary’s Private E-mails

www.nationalreview.com/article/441430/wikileaks-hillary-clinton-barack-obama-emails-more-evidence-president-lied

Roger Stone and some political analysts are saying that this hole thing is much more serious than Watergate.

Trump is pissed at the FBI and the DOJ.

Lweji · 28/10/2016 21:22

I really don't think Obama would risk himself and the Democrats losing the presidential election, particularly when Trump is running.

Even if Obama was that much evil, it doesn't make sense.

claig · 28/10/2016 21:24

'Bill Clinton said - when they were fighting for the ticket - that Obama would have been carrying their bags a few years earlier'

Yes and there was the whole thing in Israel at Peres's funeral where Bill Clinton kept Obama waiting at the airport and Obama had to call him repeatedly to get on the plane.

WinchesterWoman · 28/10/2016 21:26

Yes claig I read that elsewhere than the national review. Also many fbi officers were deeply unhappy with the closure of the first investigation. Perhaps some were ready to whistle blow. She is unpopular with rank and file.

claig · 28/10/2016 21:27

Don't forget that the politicians are run by the globalists. The decisions go way way up, possibly to the 7th Floor Group or Shadow Government.

'New FBI release on Clinton email probe refers to 'Shadow Government''
...
"There was a powerful group of very high-ranking STATE officials that some referred to as 'The 7th Floor Group' or 'The Shadow Government.' This group met every Wednesday afternoon to discuss the FOIA process, Congressional records, and everything CLINTON-related to FOIA/Congressional inquiries," the FBI's interview summary said."

www.cnbc.com/2016/10/17/fbi-releases-100-new-pages-on-clinton-email-probe.html

No one is probably in complete control, different factions have power.

claig · 28/10/2016 21:32

'Perhaps some were ready to whistle blow.'

Yes there was talk of rebellion among the ranks.

This came out the other day

"Clinton ally gave $500K to wife of FBI agent on email probe"

nypost.com/2016/10/24/clinton-ally-gave-500k-to-wife-of-fbi-agent-on-email-probe/

Trump says there has never been anything like this going on in the States.

WinchesterWoman · 28/10/2016 21:34

Cripes yes I saw that 'gift' too. Jeez.

And what the bloody hell is all that shadow government? Sounds a bit nwo weirdness.

fourmummy · 28/10/2016 21:35

Classic guardian. I see no elephant in the corner. Grin

I agree with Lweji in that it does not make sense. Lots of pictures of Michelle hugging Hillary and looking into each other's eyes (obv, not genuine). If they can maintain protocol to this level, why wouldn't Obama keep it up until it's all over? Intriguing.

Lweji · 28/10/2016 21:35

From my second link:

"But the hypocrisy matters, too. Some of the same Clinton critics reaching for the fainting couch because the public won’t see messages she deemed private also conducted official business from their private accounts in emails that will receive no public scrutiny at all."

"For that matter, the Clinton “scandal” seems oddly detached from the fact that (a) the Bush/Cheney White House lost millions of important emails, and the Beltway media largely ignored the story; (b) Mitt Romney went to hilarious lengths to hide his public emails from scrutiny in the last presidential campaign, and the Beltway media largely ignored the story; and (c) previous Secretaries of State sent and received emails that the public has never seen, and will never see, and no one seems to find that particularly controversial."

Meanwhile, we're still to see what Trump is trying to hide financially.

It might be interesting if one candidate (or elected president) faces charges for messing with emails while the other (possibly alternatively elected president) faces charges for messing with women.

I wonder if Clinton could get away with saying that the missing emails were just locker room emails.

WinchesterWoman · 28/10/2016 21:35

I see now why 'drain'

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