Anyone else torn over Corbyn coup

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My Facebook is full of outrage at MPs overriding party members and yes I can see it's anti-democratic in that sense. But on the other hand I think it's unfair to brand the shadow cabinet members now resigning as Blairite plotters. I think many of them are just honestly fed up with his rather half-hearted Remain campaigning and don't think he has a chance of winning a possibly imminent general election. Whatever happens it's going to tear the Labour party apart. Just so depressing.

I'm a swing voter, I swing between labour and lib dem. If JC stays I will vote labour, if he goes I will vote lib dem or green. I'm in my 40s.

For your speadsheets

I am a sad Labour activist who thinks they have all behaved badly. I wish all the Blairites would STFU and leave things to the newer generations. Corbyn is a disaster but I can see that he stands for a particular and real form of democracy. But he cannot and will not ever be PM material and this country has yet again been handed over to the Tories. I'm utterly dejected while Tories must be rubbing their hands in glee sad

Pretty much it means there will be a Tory govermnet for a long time jc preaches to the converted he needs to win

UKIP voters , Tory voters and SNP voters not left leaning Green Party members if there were enough of them then the Green Party would be in power to be honest he was getting his arse handed to him every week by Dave well if was just sepculacuar when may got hold of him he looked like a little boy who has just wondered in

I hear mc Donald tried to break in to a MPs office last week labour the gift that keeps on giving

Also MPs who have been promoted to the shadow cabinet people who were only elected in May people must be high if they think that's a government in waiting

they are incensed by the totally undemocratic behaviour from the Party.
^^ This
DH has never joined a political party in his life. His politics are probably centre/right. He was a big fan of Blair but the coup and the continuing negative campaigning has made him consider joining Labour to support Corbyn because it has all been so undemocratic.
I think the reactions to the EU Ref and to Corbyn are illustrating that a substantial number of people think politics is only for them; and if people think differently then their reputations are to be trashed in any way possible: from the smearing of Leave voters to the constant negative media around Corbyn; to the 'new movement' which is really trying to legitimise people with money in certain parts of the country, funding campaigns for elected representatives elsewhere, regardless of how the local constituents feel about those candidates.
It's worrying because money is hugely influential but otoh I have a faint hope that since the people trying to steer the conversations have no understanding at all of the reasons why people disagree with them then maybe throwing money at it won't be enough to skew democracy.

I'm not torn. If the PLP had wanted Corbyn out they should have taken the democratic route and immediately instigated a leadership contest. Instead they chose to derelict their positions in a time of national crisis and tried to bully him into standing down. Then they tried to ensure he could not stand when finally a contest was triggered. Then they continued to undermine him in parliament daily, all the while NOT DOING THEIR JOBS.

I'm not a "Corbyn or no-one" supporter. But I'm very opposed to the PLPs tactics in this coup. And since. The anti-Corbyn movement - including MPs - constantly refer to an "us and them" that should not be being proliferated; there is a Labour Party. There are people within it who support one leadership candidate and those who support another. There are people who behave disgracefully from either side and should be dealt with properly and strongly. But there should not be an "us and them" - we are one party.

Mostly I hate being cast as a teenaged activist who doesn't care enough about the Labour party - or those it aims to help - and who's choice of preferred leader disqualifies me from "real" Labour values. I'm in my 30s, I have a family, I don't slur or slander, I'm a woman, I'm a professional and I'm not a bloody Militant, a Trot or a protester! I just think out of Corbyn or Smith (as these are the only two options) it's Corbyn. I'm not going to throw my toys out of the pram if the majority don't agree - that's democracy - but that's what I believe and I'll happily explain why to anyone who comes to me without attacking me off the bat. And that's it!