Anyone else torn over Corbyn coup

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My Facebook is full of outrage at MPs overriding party members and yes I can see it's anti-democratic in that sense. But on the other hand I think it's unfair to brand the shadow cabinet members now resigning as Blairite plotters. I think many of them are just honestly fed up with his rather half-hearted Remain campaigning and don't think he has a chance of winning a possibly imminent general election. Whatever happens it's going to tear the Labour party apart. Just so depressing.

Does Claig have sock puppets? I don't think she is that desperate and lonely.

I didn't know all of that Sonic thank you - his time will surely come - tho that assumes the world is fair which the past week has proven it isn't!

I am so depressed with it all. Corbyn needs to go. I didn't vote for him and will vote for anybody other than him this time round. He might be principled but he simply isn't a leader and lives in completely different world to most of the electorate. I live in a marginal seat and work in a pretty left wing field and don't know anybody who believes in him as a party leader or future PM.

Sadly I believe that Jeremy will win a leadership election and think that it will be the end of the Labour Party as we know it. I'll be cancelling my membership and stopping the labour affiliation part of my union subscription if he does, not that he and his cronies will care!

He's also someone who only became an MP in 2011. He has no links to Blair or the war in Iraq apart from ending up serving there.

I voted for Corbyn, but always assumed he was there to hold the fort prior to another general election. They'd then slot in someone younger and more dynamic to give them a better chance.

Fuck sake, let someone else do it. It's just a car crash

'Fuck sake, let someone else do it. It's just a car crash'

I think that was Corbyn's original sentiment to Seumas Milne, but he was advised to hang on in there and hold firm.

I'd quite like there to be someone at the head of a party who is calm, has a genuine understanding of politics (!) and also knows when to support the dark side (ie the opposition, whichever party that might be). I'd love to see Hillary Benn in the leaders jacket....

I have missed The Thick of It.

I will vote for Jeremy. I have yet to see an MP impress me more than him. He is incredibly courageous, lesser men or women would have dissolved by now. He has a mission.

This 'Not A Leader' rhetoric is direct from Tony Blair who is frightened of the Chilcot report due 6 July in which Corbyn has already accused him of WAR CRIMES.

Somehow all the newspapers have run with this idea that Jeremy is a 'nice bloke' but not 'a leader'. Most of them will admittedly repeat that he is incapable of lying to the public.

Tell me, what kind of leader do we wish to see? After this EU referendum where we have seen millions of people voted on the words of liars and self-seeking politicians?

Someone who is unable to lie to the Voters? Who can only speak the truth as he sees it? Who has the BALLS to stick to the TRUTH?

I totally believe in Jeremy.

I want a leader who can lead, who has the gravitas to be able to negotiate on a national and international level, who can appeal to voters of all persuasions due to their political strengths, who can inspire the MPs in his party, who the public will vote for.

Corbyn voted against his own govt over 500 times, yet now is quoting party policy on remaining as leader. His text-a-mob crowd on Monday was embarrassing, and appeal with far left protest parties such as momentum, is diverting the agenda of the LP. A good leader would have stood down over the weekend, particularly with rumours of a general election in October.

Finally if even 5% of the new membership who voted him in had bothered to get involve and campaign rather than spout guff on social media then I'd have a lot more time for him. The man is a protester more interested in leading a party of protesters than a politician capable of leading a serious opposition.

What dibly said!

Someone who is unable to lie to the Voters? lordStrange, do you mean someone who unconvincingly claimed he was for Remain when it turns out he really wasn't? Wasn't that him lying to the voters?

I quite like Corbyn and he wouldn't put me off voting Labour but I'm very left leaning in my beliefs and I totally get that he doesn't appeal to the general voting public. He is an electoral liability at a time when we desperately need a strong and credible opposition. If the Labour Party ever want to get into power again they absolutely must get rid of him - the sooner the better. In fact, I'm going to join the Labour Party so that I can vote for Angela Eagle.

(I think Corbyn will win again though...)

I do wonder though how much of all of this is positioning in advance of the Chilcot report. They must all know what it says.

poster CarolineNightmare I don't believe he was lying about Remain.

He is a Eurosceptic sure, lots of politicians are, including Cameron. The question WAS should we be leaving the EU in 2016? The answer is, politically, NO.

As a country we are too poor to leave. We sit on a goodwill agreement with the EU; so no immediate war with our neighbours in EU, also a backup up with outer threats to us, terrorism. etc.

But there is an argument to leave the EU. It really was silly to Leave now.

Corbyn got that.

I like Corbyn's morales and principles, I want the Labour party to concentrate on ending inequality and elitism, I believe the public would get behind a party who aimed for that.

But because there are so many MP's who have done the cowardly thing to him, it has left him with not enough support to do the basic requirements of the job. He simply hasn't got the number of MP's to work with him, even though I think he'd easily win a leadership contest.

Finally, for all his principles and calm manner in Westminster (hate the way DC & others debate by just shouting and heckling), I do think to be a leader who will gather and convert support from the public you need to be media friendly and savvy but also someone who can inspire, act up for the occasion and sometimes bullshit a bit! Jeremy wouldn't be that person.

Oh and I think he is right to hold on to the job until Chilcot is released, then resign with honour.

Angela Eagle oh dear.

JC is a dead duck. TBH I can't see the Labour Party surviving his leadership if he carries on following that massive vote of no confidence from his MPs. I'm not a fan of AE but will vote for her if there is any chance of getting him out. The Labour Party needs to be electable - a party with a real shot at power not a protest party of rapidly decreasing relevance to the electorate. This whole situation is deeply embarrassing and is making a mockery of our political system. We desperately need a strong & credible opposition and JC is completely unable to deliver that.

Corbyn is pro-open border immigration and anti-EU. The number of people who are simultaneously both of these things has to be absolutely tiny. How on earth did this guy get to lead the Labour Party? I fear Labour is finished.

I've just heard that Angela has announced that she won't be making an announcement.

She can keep that going forever

Sky are reporting a Labour MP is outraged that JC stood by saying nothing, when a momentum activist said unpleasant things to her for her religion, which is Jewish at the anti Semitic meeting. What is JC thinking?

The whole event was disgraceful. Neither JC nor his entourage did a thing.

This Man surely now has lost what remaining support he had.

I've just seen the Ruth Smeeth thing.

To stand there and not say a word?!?!?!

Someone actually said on another thread that they were worried about his health as he looks so stressed. He's obviously surrounded by incompetents who arent otecting or supporting him. He now needs to get a grip of himself and state he wants to leave.