Have the House of Lords voted yet about the tax credits?

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Just wondering if my last hope of the House of Lords voting against the tax credits changes has happened yet?

I think it's Monday.

What is your prediction?
I think the changes will go ahead otherwise Cameron and co will look very stupid otherwise

I have no idea what's going to happen but I think they should freeze the tax credits at the levels they are so no one loses any money. Cameron and co look pretty stupid most of the time anyway so a no vote in the House of Lords will just add to that! :)

If they vote against then you are going to see reform of the lords run up the agenda. It also means it will be back to the Lords attached to a bill they daren't vote against.

its today

I don't think it will make any difference, i think the changes will still go ahead

i actually think its for the best long term, as hopefully this will make the general public realise what utter cunts the tories are and actually get off their arses in 2020 and vote them out (I speak as someone who will be 3k a year worse off)

I watched the chap on the news this morning from the tories talking about the tax cuts. I could of climbed into the television and slapped the smug cunt across the face!

That's my intelligent input anyway

Tax credit cuts that should say.
Tax cuts pahaha

I am glad I didn't watch then. They speak seductively, it makes my skin crawl.

Did they seriously call them 'tax cuts'?

I really hope they stop it. Whatever your politics, it's not right to drag so many people in the poverty so quickly. Surely the conservatives think work should pay, buy they will likely push people into situations where they would be better off not working? Luckily I have never have to claim any benefits or tax credits, but I want to live in a society that supports the poorest and most vulnerable and doesn't let children live in poverty. I would blame the people who voted conservative, but this wasn't in their manifesto and they even said they wouldn't do it. I think that is wrong. Good on the Lib Dems and Labour for trying the stop/delay these plans.

Watching now. Baroness Campbell was awesome. Baroness Hayman great just now.

Never thought I'd be depending on the Lords

[/mounts the barricades with chillyegg]

Which channel is it on, LuisSuarezTeeth?

Mind, I dn't know if I can bear it.

There are a few live blogs online.

Guardian

Torygraph

Westminster Live on the BBC site

If it wasn't so tragic it would be funny that while the House of Lords are debating cuts to the poor the House of Commons are debating tax breaks for the rich.

Earl Howe just got owned

Odd

£14bn in uncollected income tax, national insurance and capital gains tax, and £12.4bn in uncollected VAT.

Vs

£4.5bn in tax credits cut.

Hmmmmmm

So I'm basically paying for Trident?

Jolly good.

Dont mind me - just marking my place

No you fucking aren't you lying cunt.

luis some of the Lords are great. I wrote to a handful when the tories were pushing the CSA charges through and I got some very supportive letters in return. Obviously the tories overturned the Lords 'no' vote back then .

Blimey that was an unfortunate x-post. Sorry Sweeeep.