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Tory policies wrecking the country.

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ChickenLickn · 18/10/2011 19:42

tory policies wrecking the country just like we knew they would

Tories are bad for business. Bad for you and bad for me. Unless you are a dave's mates millionaire perhaps.

OP posts:
claig · 20/10/2011 16:21

Rhubarb, mate. Wake up. The Daily Mail is right. The Daily Mail doesn't suck up to the climate change chums and their plans. But the Daily Mail only tell you half the truth, they don't spell it out for you. They don't tell you why.

www.dailymail.co.uk/debate/article-2001244/Gas-prices-Fuel-bills-increase-crackpot-green-taxes-youre-told-about.html

The Guardian article is partially right

www.guardian.co.uk/environment/2011/jun/16/daily-mail-climate-change

newwave · 20/10/2011 16:25

Rhub.

Claig is a Daily Hate worshiping fruit loop who needs to be locked up for his own good BUT he has every right to spout his rubbish on here stupid and derranged as it is.

claig · 20/10/2011 16:29

I am not a fruit loop, I am not a progressive and I am not a he, but I am partial to fruit gums.

By all means read the Guardian and George Monbiot, but also read an opposite view, and remember that the Daily Mail only gives half the truth. The other half you have to find for yourself.

Rhubarb0oooo · 20/10/2011 16:33

The Daily Mail is racist, bigoted, prejudiced, sexist and narrow-minded. It's like telling us that the Sunday Sport stands up for women's rights.

I suppose this is all the fault of the welfare state and nothing whatsoever to do with the banks? After all, Labour might have done nothing to stop the banks leading us into recession but the Tories, despite warnings from many financial experts, are refusing to hold them to account and since many top banks support the Tories and vice versa, I doubt very much that the Tories would have done anything different to stop the financial crisis.

How easy it is to blame the poorest when in actual fact the amount paid to welfare is a drop in the ocean compared to the banks activities.

claig · 20/10/2011 16:34

Read the comments section of the Daily Mail, that's where you find another quarter of the truth, that the Mail themselves don't say.

alemci · 20/10/2011 16:41

Its not that simple though. The bankers would still do okay if NL were in power. TBH they have caused alot of problems by borrowing on the never never and wasn't it them who introduced the PPI idea when say a school was built and then they pay back the private company for donkey's years.

I do think NL's open house immigration policy of the last 18 years' hasn't helped creating even more needy people (yes i know some make a great contribution but what about all the extra housing required and school places etc).

claig · 20/10/2011 16:42

The right wing Tea party was teh first movement of ordinary people who opposed teh bank bailouts back when they first started 3 years ago. Back then, the unions and progressives did nothing to support those ordinary people in their protests against the ripoff bankers. They just sneered at those ordinary people nd the progressive newspapers mocked their aims. Now 3 odd years later, Occupy Wall Street and Michael Moore and teh progressives have finally started making teh same complaints against the bankers. Why now? What took them so long? You'll only find half the truth if you believe the papers.

The Tea Party people never blamed the poor, they blamed only the bankers. Of course politicians will blame anyone they can, but they can't blame the powerful. That's how it goes, that's what the papers won't tell you.

claig · 20/10/2011 17:03

'At a time when household savers are struggling to get a 0.5 per cent return on an instant access saving account, some of these renewable energy subsidies ? paid in the form of generous payments for the electricity produced, so called feed-in tariffs (FITs) ? are guaranteeing annual returns of 10 per cent.
Small wonder that after years of disinterest and inactivity, renewable energy projects are now popping up all over the place.
These direct subsidies are paid for out of general taxation ? in other words by every individual or corporate taxpayer ? to the current tune of some £1.5 billion a year.
But research has shown these subsidies are being paid to some of the wealthiest landowners and biggest businesses in the country, including the Crown Estate.
It's one of the biggest wealth transfers ? from millions of ordinary hard-working taxpayers to a few hundred of the hugely wealthy ? in British history.'

The fat cats didn't get where they are by being stupid. They know how to pull the wool and they have lots of 'cabs for hire' and progressives to inform the public. So the fuel prices will keep going higher and higher.

claig · 20/10/2011 17:06

'It's one of the biggest wealth transfers ? from millions of ordinary hard-working taxpayers to a few hundred of the hugely wealthy ? in British history.'

The bank bailouts were just teh same. Why do you think the Tea Party knew the score and why do you think that the 'cabs for hire', stooges and progressive newspapers made sure to ridicule them at every opportunity?

claig · 20/10/2011 17:25

Don't forget the original Tea party. It was the start of the American Revolution, the dispossession of the rich and mighty and giving power to the people. The Establishment and progressives didn't want to see another movement like that being born, so they ridiculed it, marginalised and turned progressives against it. Even after all the progressives' efforts, the American people still give the Tea Party a 27% approval rating. Occupy Wall Street has a 58% approval rating. Why don't the progressives ridicule that? Aren't they worried about it? No, they are backing it.

aquashiv · 21/10/2011 12:37

Vince Cable has admitted the 'brutal reality' that Britain's economy is in a worse state than it was when Labour was in power.

aquashiv · 21/10/2011 12:39

Just incase you missed the first line in your favourite right wing rag.
The World According to Claig indeed.

claig · 21/10/2011 13:00

Yes, Cable is right, it is the brutal truth, the economy has got worse.
But that is not the fault of the 'team'.

Labour drove the car to the top of the hill, slammed the car into reverse, put the foot on the accelerator right down to the floor, and drove the car recklessly down the hill and set the economy into reverse. They then threw litter out of the car; they brazenly chucked a hand-written note out of the car window, saying "sorry, there's no money left" and "Get out of that one!".

The 'team' rushed to man the defence. It was all hands to the deck. Gove, Osborne, Cable, Clegg; everyone was there trying to stop the car's reverse. They were all trying to push the car back up the hill. They slammed the brakes on, they let the tyres down, they put the handbrake on, but nothing would stop the car's headlong descent.

Finally, Cable took a break from trying to push the car back up the hill, mopped his brow, and told the esteemed Daily Mail readership what the true situation was. He told them "the brutal truth", that try as they might, the economy was in a worse state than when Labour drove the car backwards down the hill. This didn't surprise the Daily Mail's esteeemed readers, they knew all too well what Labour could do, would do and definitely did do.

It's going to be a hard uphill struggle to undo Labour's myriad mistakes, but if anyone can do it, the 'team' most certainly can. That is why the Daily Mail readership voted for the 'team'.

claig · 21/10/2011 13:34

Why do you think the 'team' turn up dutifully every Prime Minister's Question Time, with a dignified demeanour, and bear all the cruel jibes and japery from the Labour benches. You will have noticed how the 'team' sit there in stony-faced silence, valiantly enduring the calumnies heaped upon them by those who left a note saying "sorry, there's no money left". And it is a mark of their duty and honour that the 'team' never even mention that note, though when they first read it, it cut them to the quick.

You or I would probably not be able to bear it, but that is why we are not part of the 'team'.

Why do the 'team' do it? Because they have a duty to the nation. They are on the side of the people, and they will work to deliver the country from the jaws of disaster that Labour left it in.

aquashiv · 21/10/2011 13:42

Claig you are just a nutter. Are you Boris Johnson?

claig · 21/10/2011 13:44

Boris Johnson is no nutter. He is a leading member of the 'team', and there was never, nor will there ever be a nutter amongst the 'team'. Remember the 'team' is not New Labour.

aquashiv · 21/10/2011 14:06

Whatever you say, crazy wild haired Tory team member

You are giving us all a good laugh this afternoon.

claig · 21/10/2011 14:25

A good laugh, yes. But, also a good explication of the state that Labour left the country in. We are able to laugh at Labour, but think of the 'team', they cannot laugh, they have too much serious work to do.

ohanotherone · 21/10/2011 14:31

Look everyone knows that Labour spunks the money, then the bad old Tories come along and sort everything out by cutting public services to the bone, then everyone thinks they are shit and then labour come back in and sells off the gold, lies about the actual state of things, increases immigration to create a property boom and employs public servants so employment goes down. We are all hamsters on this vile treadmill. They are both as bad as each other!!!!

glasnost · 21/10/2011 14:32

Please claig! Call it NEW Labour. Or even Nu Labour. But not Labour. The current Labour party is a travesty of the original one.

And I think it's rude to call claig a "nutter".

claig · 21/10/2011 14:35

Thank you, glasnost. Yes, I agree, it is New Labour rather than real Labour.

I think ohanotherone has summed it up very well, apart from the last sentence.

glasnost · 21/10/2011 14:49

Exactly ohanotherone it's the old good cops bad cops routine. I'm amazed the sheeple still fall for it and that anyone vaguely of the left could vote Nu Labour.

claig and I are probably politically antithetical yet I feel she's inherently democratic unlike so many posters on here.

Enough of the lovein. claig are you Viscount Rothermere????

claig · 21/10/2011 15:04

'claig are you Viscount Rothermere'

I wish I were. He's probably got a bob or two.

breadandbutterfly · 21/10/2011 15:18

I think claig and niceguy are using a straw man to avoid discussing the pioint of the OP. I don't think any posters here from the left of the spectrum think New Labour did a perfect job. I certainly didn't vote for them at the last election.

However, they would probably have done a marginally less shit job than this lot. Which is however irrelevant as THEY ARE NO LONGER IN POWER.

The point is that this government are ruining the country and the lives of ordinary British people (except for the v wealthy ones and their mates who are doing v nicely thank you) in numerous, awful ways. Literally death by a thousand cuts - how many lives will be/have been lost as a result of NHS cuts, high heating costs etc etc etc?

No joking matter.

glasnost · 21/10/2011 15:28

No breadandbutterfly the point is without the continuation of Thatcherite policies by Bleurgh et al the Tories literally couldn't be in this position to hammer in the last nail in the coffin.

THAT's no joking matter. You can't talk about one without the other. They're inextricably linked.

We shouldn't settle for a "marginally less shit job" by Nu Labour. We need a good job by a real political alternative.