The Grauniad seems to be dying - hurrah!

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I doubt Polly will be selling her Tuscan villa any time soon, but it will be a wonderful day when the BBC's in-house journal gets what it deserves.

www.telegraph.co.uk/finance/newsbysector/mediatechnologyandtelecoms/media/8580566/Job-cull-looms-at-The-Guardian.html

btw does anyone have any information on whether the Times online pay-per-view system is working out? I would hate to see the Grauniad disappear behind a paywall, but if that is what they have to do to survive so be it.

Gosh, that's brightened my day!
I hope she finished paying for her conservatory.

Is it really true that the Guardian is struggling seriously -- I mean, more than the whole industry is struggling in the face of the online onslaught?

I'm feeling guilty now that I have stopped buying the print version. I wouldn't mind paying a bit for its online content. Not sure why so many webistas seem to think that payed-for expert journalism online is a bad thing. We will all lose (are already losing) from the imability of the press to afford enough good journalism.

the Daily Mail is one of the world's greatest newspapers

Erm, pardon??? Someone exists who chooses to read the Daily Wail and is capable of posting that whole sentence here??? I am falling over with shock!

you'll get used to Claig, notevenamousie...she is a bit of a one-off

It comes as no surpise that the Daily Mail is also a one-off; standing alone against a murky sea of progressive porkies and assorted lies.

Claig. 'A Sea of progressive porkies' More like a 'few' progressive porkers, the Guardian readers!

How can Claig be a one off? When the Mail has 2.5 million readers a day?(More like the views of the majority) As opposed to Guardians 175.000? She is a 'one -off' with here wit and charm perhaps. A bit like me really

My dh is a GP and he says one of his worst nightmares is someone coming in with a bunch of cuttings from the DM. Their medical info is, in his words "scaremongering shite".

'My dh is a GP and he says one of his worst nightmares is someone coming in with a bunch of cuttings from the DM'

are his nightmares due to his inability to counter the facts in the Daily Mail cuttings?

Was he an advocate of the swine flu pandemic? Were his nightmares due to worried patients carrying Daily Mail cuttings?

www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1242147/The-false-pandemic-Drug-firms-cashed-scare-swine-flu-claims-Euro-health-chief.html

Is the Daily Mail disliked because it is uppity, challenges the official view, and is always on the side of the people as opposed to the progressives?

Is the Dialy Mail so popular with the populace, as complimentary showed with its 2.5 million daily readership, because it is with the people and not the politically correct progressives?

I don't often read the Guardian, but it would be a shame if it went under. We need there to be a spectrum of serious print media available.

Is the Daily Mail disliked because it is uppity, challenges the official view, and is always on the side of the people as opposed to the progressives?

No - because it consistently produces stories that make most women squirm. And ones which make scientists bang their heads on the lab bench. And racist crap, of course.

Anyone else know 'people' who are actually also quite 'progressive' ?

'And ones which make scientists bang their heads on the lab bench'

are you referring to those "scientists" known as "climate change scientists"? the science that Sarah Palin has, I think , described as "snake oil science"?

claig, do you write for the DM? I fail to understand why anyone could get so worked up in its defence, otherwise. You rarely talk of anything else. Very odd.

Also, re: 'disliked because it is uppity, challenges the official view, and is always on the side of the people as opposed to the progressives?'

What on earth are you banging on about? You sound like Norma Tebbit and Mary Whitehouse's slightly slow lovechild.

What 'people' is it on the side of? Ad how does it 'challenge the official view'?

Bollocks.

Do these scientists not like the Daily Mail because it questions them and asks for proof of their pandemics and messages of doom and destruction? Is it because the Daily Mail, in the spirit of the great Galileo, holds the torch of truth and proof up to their claims and exposes the patent flaws where they exist.

Are you a fan of Sarah Palin? Oh, that explains it all. Not the brightest, really, is she?

No I don't write for the Daily Mail; if I did I wouldn't be writing about it on a forum. I find it amusing to defend the Daily Mail against progressives who always disparage it. I find it amusing to prick their bubble of pomposity.

OneHelluvaBroad, I'd put money on it, that as a Governor of Alaska and Vice-Presidential candidate and possibly the next President of the United States of America, that Sarah Palin is a lot brighter than you.

But your progressive newspapers peddle the myth to you that you are brighter than her and that she is stupid. Wake up, she's not stupid, and you've been had.

It's ok guys, Claig is on a mission. A wind up shall we say. Always makes me hoot with laughter.

Well done for pricking that bubble of pomposity, with all your long words and Shakespeare rhymes, we all needed that, thankyou.

The Guardian was kept alive for years by the revenues it made from Autotrader which the scott Trust which controls Guardian Media Group still owns 50.5% of. Its other main source of revenue was Govt advertising revenue for civil service, charity, quango jobs. Now that revenue stream is facing massive cuts - hence the need for job cuts.

are you referring to those "scientists" known as "climate change scientists"?
the science that Sarah Palin has, I think , described as "snake oil science"?

That has to be the funniest defence of the Daily mail I've ever seen.

I was actually thinking about a piece where they were taking an astrologer seriously about something, but yes, their populist climate change denialism ain't good.

Sarah Palin may be a very clever politician. But her ignorance on many subjects is well documented.

MrsKarbonara is right. It is a little bit of a windup, and the long words add to the wind up. But those long words and Shakespearean rhymes are not unusual, they are just the daily currency of the Daily Mail.