When will the BBC be held accountable for their lack of patriotism

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Why does this far-left propoganda group continually try to do Britain down?

Why can't they have more presenters who think like the majority of Brits - people who believe that Britain is truly great - indeed, the best country in the world.

People who believe in our institutions, who love the monarchy, who revere the military, who speak in hushed awe about the majesty of our traditions. Presenters who are over-awed by the silent beauty of our countryside, and the glory of our heritage and history. Why do they always use their sneering, supercilious, Guardianista attitude - this constant insinuation that Britain should always be taking the blame and apologising. Coincidentally, it seems to stem from the same sort of sneering middle-classery that is prevalent on MN...

The most recent, shameful episode is the Beeb trying their best to spoil the England 2018 bid. Now I have no time at all for football - I can't stand it - but I fully recognise how important it is for our economy, and also for our national psyche.

The sooner the BBC withers and dies the better. Sadly, it has gotten away with a miniscule 16% cut in the TV tax over 6 years. They will continue their ramblings for the foreseeable future.

I'd rather our NHS than, say, the US model, thanks. Not that it's perfect.

Incidentally, have you seen Cuba's health care model? It's excellent.

LFN, I'm concerned by your attitude of "right wing = right, anything else = wrong".

Anyway, goodnight all.

A tip for those in London: LBC is far more interesting and varied than BBC Radio 5!

Our moral values are better than other countries? Are you having a laugh?

We illegally invade other countries and make the poor man pay for the rich man's folly. The right wing would love to get rid of state healthcare and the welfare state. How does ignoring the vulnerable sit with your morals?

I'd rather have the French health care system, which the UN said was the best in the world. Why don't Labour look at that? Don't they want us to have as good a system as the people 30 miles across the Channel? Don't the British people deserve as good a health service as the French people?

Of course we do, but under the Tories our health care system will be cut and cut and cut. Apparently Labour "wasted" money on trying to improve the NHS.

So which is it? Left wingers wanting to spend to improve, or right wingers wanting to cut?

Left wingers spend on bureaucrats and managers on £200,000 salaries. Some of these people presided over hospitals where people died of dehydration. They set targets which massaged figures but were often detrimental to the health of the patients. The Tories will cut waste and manage resources more effectively than Labour did. The Tories will regulate, unlike what Labour did with the banks.

The Tories and Lib Dems signed up to the levels of regulation of the banks, they also called for LESS regulation. So that argument is old and incorrect.

If the Tories and (haha) Lib Dems can cut waste and make the NHS more effective then I will applaud them. I have no faith that they will, however.

I think Cameron is putting a cap on the salaries of some of these people and of civil servants. They want less fatcats.

They used to be the fat cats champions.

I lost some of my faith in Labour when they went all "left of centre" and spent too much effort courting those same fatcats. As with Lib Dems, they sold their soul for power.

Osborne wanted the Bank of England to be in charge, he wanted to abolish Labour's tripartite system of bank regulation

www.telegraph.co.uk/finance/newsbysector/banksandfinance/5780154/Tories-pledge-to-abolish-tripartite-model-of-City-regulation.html

Is the same Bank of England that sat and fiddled while the City burned?

Yes, but it was no longer in sole charge, due to Brown's regulatory regime.

Slightly off topic but what's all this "Big Society" rubbish about? Isn't that what the government were voted in for? If we start running our own schools and such, will government start chopping minister's jobs? They won't be needing so many, after all.

Is Brown seriously to blame for the worst world wide recession since the war?

OP are you for real?!

LFN you are running an active campaign against the BBC on mumsnet. Are you paid by News as part of their ongoing campaign to destroy the BBC?

I think Big Society is bullshit, but I may be wrong. I don't think anyone knew what it was and therefore it was irrelevant to voters.

Brown wasn't to blame for the worldwide recession, but even he admitted that he got it wrong and didn't understand what the banks were doing and wished that he had regulated them better.

" Patriots love their country, full stop. There does not need to be reason or justification "

Like I said - idiots.

the vast amount of debt the UK is in is Browns (and blairs) responsibility.

thecoalition althouth patriotism is the last refuge of the scoundrel, love for ones homelaand and the people that inhabit is no more irrational than any other kind of love.

I love the UK.

there are many things about it it that are preferable to how things are in other countries - truly i have won the lottery of life!

You have - you get to live in the same country as me.

Love for ones homeland - as in a sentimental attachment to a geography, landscape and culture - fine.

Patriotism - Believing that your country is the 'best' and always in the right - for cunts.

But patriotism isn't always thinking your country is the best and always in the right.
It is just love of your own country, Patriotism is natural and healthy. Being unpatriotic is strange.

DP laughed out loud at the OP. He goes on all the time about all of these things being overdone by the beeb.

And Lmao at 'the British public being right wing by inclination'. I think you'll find that the English public may be, the Scottish public are certainly not or there'd be more than one Tory MP north of the border.

agree about the Scottish public. Yes I should have said the English public, but then English people make up the majority of British people.