When will the BBC be held accountable for their lack of patriotism

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Why does this far-left propoganda group continually try to do Britain down?

Why can't they have more presenters who think like the majority of Brits - people who believe that Britain is truly great - indeed, the best country in the world.

People who believe in our institutions, who love the monarchy, who revere the military, who speak in hushed awe about the majesty of our traditions. Presenters who are over-awed by the silent beauty of our countryside, and the glory of our heritage and history. Why do they always use their sneering, supercilious, Guardianista attitude - this constant insinuation that Britain should always be taking the blame and apologising. Coincidentally, it seems to stem from the same sort of sneering middle-classery that is prevalent on MN...

The most recent, shameful episode is the Beeb trying their best to spoil the England 2018 bid. Now I have no time at all for football - I can't stand it - but I fully recognise how important it is for our economy, and also for our national psyche.

The sooner the BBC withers and dies the better. Sadly, it has gotten away with a miniscule 16% cut in the TV tax over 6 years. They will continue their ramblings for the foreseeable future.

And as for "Why does this far-left propoganda group continually try to do Britain down?", Mr Cameron's "Broken Britain" speeches, aren't exactly building us up, are they? He's not left wing, too, is he?

And Claig, my comment about being unpatriotic came from the OP which you agree with.

'EVEN if the BBC was a front for the Red Army Faction it's a small price to pay for documenties about synthesisers on mainstream channels in daytime.'

That's what some unwise people in the Soviet Union also thought, the type who wanted bread and circuses, but fortunately not Solzhenitsyn.

Claig: 'Does the United States have a state controlled broadcaster?'

No, but try Fox News for a perfectly unbiased news channel.

And please see my earlier post - not even his best friends would claim Nick Robinson as anything but a Tory.

I think the BBC should be held accountable for hiring Robert Peston. He's awful.

'Thatcher was re-elected so the BBCs "bias" hardly affected her career, did it?'

Thatcher was re-elected several times because the British public are right-wing by inclination. The BBC can't easily influence that.

I agreed it has a left bias. I didn't agree with all the rest. However, a left bias does necessarily involve undermining institutions, just as teh Bolsheviks did in Russia.

I really like documetries about synthesisers though.

PrincessFiorimonde I am of your name. That is actually my favourite story of all time.

'No, but try Fox News for a perfectly unbiased news channel.'

Yes Fox News is biased, but it is not run by the state. The public are not forced to pay to be fed the bias of Fox News. They won't be jailed if they refuse to pay for the bias.

The Bolsheviks weren't terribly keen on undermining Bolshevik institutions.

Left wingers in the UK are less than keen on undermining left wing institutions such as the Unions.

Institutions are not the exclusive property of the right wing.

'I really like documetries about synthesisers though.'

They know that, just as the Roman emperors knew that the public liked bread and circuses, so they fed Christians to the lions in the Colisseum. A lot of people loved that too, they gave it a thumbs up.

That's right. Which left-wing institutions and thinkers are undermined by the BBC?

iTigress, I love you. Especially as no one ever on this site has previously recognised my name for what it is.

The rest of you here - ffs, just read my earlier posts. I am right (e.g. about Nick Robinson), so you can all just admire my insight and go to bed now.

HTH

So when you said "however, a left bias does necessarily involve undermining institutions, just as teh Bolsheviks did in Russia."

(you really DID say that you know. It's just up there. I can still see it.)

you actually meant something completley different?

"Thatcher was re-elected several times because the British public are right-wing by inclination. The BBC can't easily influence that.

I agreed it has a left bias. I didn't agree with all the rest. However, a left bias does necessarily involve undermining institutions, just as teh Bolsheviks did in Russia." Claig, isn't that contradictory?

The fact remains that all the alternatives to the state funded broadcasters - from a political point of view - are basically the rancid vomit of a dog that has eaten it's own shit.

Some of them can make some decent entertainment though .

Also I need to ask, Claig and Longfingernails, are you complaining that the BBC should report equally left and right wing? Or that, as you believe it to be left wing, it is inherently wrong?

I doubt that the BBC will undermine left-wing institutions.

Why is that contradictory?

'Some of them can make some decent entertainment though.'

well if you like programmes about synthesisers, the private broadcasters will do those as well. Politics is more important than synthesisers.

I like all arguments and debates, both left wing and right wing. I want the BBC to give access to both. I don't like one-sided propaganda.

Documentaries about synthesisers (and the National Grid too - that was fabulous) are hardly 'bread and circuses', more a reminder of what we'd lose if we lost the BBC.

LFN and Claig - do you not watch the other channels? Do you not realise why the BBC is a truly great institution?

Goth, of course the BBC do a lot of great stuff. What we are talking about is mind influencing political output.

" Politics is more important than synthesisers."

I'm not always convinced of this to be honest.

The BBC is (supposedly) the BRITISH Broadcasting Corporation. Promoting British identity and interests should be part of its Charter - but ultimately, patriotism can't be imposed by diktat. It should hire more patriots, and fire hundreds of non-jobbing middle managers, diversity officers, communist sympathising journalists, union officials and Labour hacks.

Oh, and Nick Robinson is a Blairite through and through. He was a student Tory (and even then, a "wet").

"Politics is more important than synthesisers."
I'm not always convinced of this to be honest."

Then unfortunately you will eventually get the society that you deserve.

Surely if the BBC was a state- controlled broadcaster, its bias would change according to the government of the day?