Depressed lefties - what now, is there any hope?

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I hate what this government are doing. All the sh*t about 'if you're poor/disabled' we'll look after you - yeah right, by designing a test which tries to make people who are disabled look like they're not. Everything else too.

Do you think Ed Miliband will lessen the chances of us being stuck with the tories for another 5 years? I can't bear them.

Is the Mullin thing really essential reading?

Eleison - v gd point. hehe

Sancti - I totall agree with you about Al Jo - I was rather flabbergasted when he didn't stand.

God knows why Yvette Cooper didn't either. Do you reckon they tossed a coin? She should have done a Ed Mil and thrown her hat in the ring at the last minute.

SORRY for the whole Al Jo and Ed Mil think (reducing politicians to teh status of minor slebs like J Lo and R Pats)

What demo?

Both Chris Mullin diaries are excellent, in my view.

The first ones were a lot more jolly.

Diaries by minor politicians on the fringes when a party is in implode mode are always brilliant in my view (Alan Clarkm, Giles Brandreth (don't laugh)).

"I'm not sure that calling people mentalists and scum is better than calling them bigots."

You're welcome to think of a better word than "scum" for Margaret Moran. Or spring to her defence, indeed. Likewise for Labour's main business 1994--2008 being the self-indulgent disloyalty of a man unfit for office.

I am also not the elected leader of the united kingdom.

"Tokyo - didn'y you find the Chris Mullin diaries the most depressing read ever."

Only started them last night. So far, I am not cheered. At least Alan Clark was living well.

'in my view' twice. Apols for the pompous twat tone,.

I only ever read the excerpts in the papers.

"God knows why Yvette Cooper didn't either. "

Quite. She'd have been outstanding. She's also not a serial traitor and back-stabber with a long history of putting personal feuds ahead of the interests of both party and country, like her husband.

"Diaries by minor politicians on the fringes when a party is in implode mode are always brilliant in my view"

We've all read the Chips Channon diaries, yes?

Thank you, Proles.

"I only ever read the excerpts in the papers. "

you got off lightly

I read Chips Channon years ago, I lent it to my Ex MIl and she never gave it back (one of the myriad reasons that she will burn in hell)

Brilliant read.

Gertorf, I went to see Chris Mullin do a talk and booksigning last week and I put a comment on your thread about him afterwards. He's a fabulous man and seems pretty happy in retirement. Found it quite sad the way he said that Labour had been able to push a bit more money towards the poor but had to do it by stealth so the more mean-minded Telegraph and Mail readers didn't notice. Am I being utterly naive to think we should be able to take pride in improving people's lot rather than hiding it? Esp as the rich are in the minority, so why do we have to kowtow to them politically so much. We need a much more politically active working class but it's difficult given that we have a) a Tory press and b) widespread cynicism about politics (could those two elements be linked by any chance?).

Oh this looks like the place for me.

I'm going to stand over there, next to the large open window, with my flinging shoes on.

i derive a sort of twisted amusement watching the libdems contort themselves trying to make their previous policies fit with the current coalition's policies- tuition fees etc.
they really are a useless shower of knobbers

am also quite pleased that the tories have so swiftly shown themselves to be a bunch of lying heartless bastards.
So we know where we stand then

I have hopes for EdM and his team...

OOh cinammon - I just read your post on the Chris Mullin thread. Am glad he seems a good chap in RL. I have never written a letter to anyone in the public eye but was sorely tempted when I read his diaries.

The Daily Mail seems to hate Nick Clegg as much as we do. There was fantastic article not long back entitled 'what is the point of Nick Clegg', accompanied with a picture of NC looking particularly chinless and vacant.

It wasn't just the international banking sector that got us into this mess: the massive off-balance sheet expenditure through PFI is also hugely to blame. And that was, while initiated under Major, perpetuated and massively expanded by Labour (see late, great Paul Foot's Private Eye supplement).

Oh yes, forgot about that.