Depressed lefties - what now, is there any hope?

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I hate what this government are doing. All the sh*t about 'if you're poor/disabled' we'll look after you - yeah right, by designing a test which tries to make people who are disabled look like they're not. Everything else too.

Do you think Ed Miliband will lessen the chances of us being stuck with the tories for another 5 years? I can't bear them.

Hello depressed lefties.

I had a fleeting moment of wishing I were in some Mediterranean country so we could all be having a jolly time marching, burning cars, knocking off work, and generally sticking it to da man, rather than slumping in a corner and sobbing into our cider.

Euro-lefties do it better, really, don't they?

I was v cheered by Vince Cable's obvious depression on PM yesterday. He sounded like he was fed up to the back teeth of the coalition already, even while defending cabinet policy. God knows how the backbenchers are feeling.

Thanks for the cheery note Beta [weeps into cider purchased from wine merchant in Pimlico with strangely glossy face and hair]

He did, didn't he? He positively squirmed too when interviewed by C4 News. The soundbites don't sound half as thrusting when sighed out by Vince.

Oh the lib backbenchers are loving their (brief) moment of glory, the wankers.

I have never liked the liberals, I lived for the best part of 30 years in a liberal stronghold, and saw how useless and pernicious (dangerous combo) they were when they had a smidgen of power.

YY They'll agree to anything just to have their Form Monitor badges.

ShitBastardWankers.

Why doesn't Vince go mad and speak out? Wouldn't it be lovely?

Wouldn't you love to get Vince legless on chianti and then have a drunken chat about how he REALLY feels?

Vince, if you're ever in the neighbourhood, I do a very good lasagne and can offer a shoulder to cry on and LOTS of red wine.

And DH voted LD so he can do the washing up.

Oh yes, Vince. The one beacon in the darkness of L* D*ness.
Everything he says which is vaguely toeing the line is said through gritted teeth. Can't wait to read his memoirs.

I wish he'd live up to his name and take Cleggy down a dark alley and 'ave 'im. (in a thumpy way, not in a male politician way, you understand )

I bet there are quite a few depressed and stressed LibDems.

Think about it: you go into politics as a LD, you don't expect to get beyond constituency MP, and now suddenly you're in government, maybe in the cabinet, your life might have completely changed and you only had a few weeks (if that) to prepare for the possibility (ie from when NC started aceing it on the televised debates) and to top it all, you're being sat on to vote against things you believe in AND everyone hates you.
I know the Orange Book LDs won't be feeling it like that but I don't half feel sorry for some of them.

David davis? Really

Hague? mayhap.

Bucharest- have you read Vince's last set of memoirs (must be due for an update?)

Quite a bit of bile towards those he now works with- esp. Georgy Boy O.

I have hope for him but it is fading.

Oh dear am doing my point epr post thing agin LOL- sorry

getOrf and my Dh have disagreed before about having grown up in LD wards, though tehy were different (DH had good ol' Paddy as his MP). Dad was a former LD candidate; now disgusted, I was asked to stand and refused, now Lab member. DH currenlty member of both LD and Lab but only until LD membership expires. he doesn;pt see why tehy should get to keep his cash and not send things to him, whilst I am of tthe srongly worded letter ilk.

I'm getting quite cross about the dismissal of the union vote for EdM. They are ordinary people! Their votes don't make his victory any less valid.

And he has already moved to say that he will not kow tow to the unions.

The thing that really depresses me is how much the ConDems have lied to the electorate, and how many pre-election promises are being broken. Regardless of my politics, I have so little respect for this kind of behaviour. And politicians wonder why people have little faith in them?

It could be worse though- I could be 80 and expecting to die before I see anopther Lab Government.

Thatd be worse.
Should I happen to die however, DH has been instructed to let me know when my lot get back in; I will know

Its depressing - having read the cuts that our Council are planning to impose on childrens services, as well as those for children with SEND I am seriously thinking of private or Home-ed for DS2.

wasn't there something about a reform of the voting system? does that still hold any water in terms of what chance we might have of knocking this lot off their feet?

beyond that I do think there will be rearranging of 'things' because nobody has any faith in the coalition.

I fear that we are back in about 1972 at the moment and will have 10 more years of economic malaise, stubborn unemployment, and incipient inflation. Politicaly I suspect we will be flip-flopping between weak left leaning government craven to the unions and weak right leaning govt open to the siren voice of Europe and special pleading from business.

Christ, Beta, I bet you're a blast at dinner parties

I see no light at the end of the tunnel. No optimism. It's all bloody grim

craven to the unions

What paying people a decent wage and giving them decent working conditions while they feather the nests of the rich, do you mean?

NightLark I heard that nutso woman on Today this morning - she was utterly risible.

Didn't vote for EdM myself and feel he is a bit of a work in progress (whereas felt DM was the finished article) but have to be optimistic that he can engage people and start really throwing the flak at the coalition. Oh how I wish Yvette had stood though...

The only bright spot in this Tory nightmare is that now everyone hates George Osborne. I know a number of people who have been loathing him for many many years so it's quite gratifying that at last the rest of the country has joined in (never met him myself, but that doesn't stop me hating him too, obv).

Can't stand the way it's perfectly acceptable to vilify a group of ordinary people banded together to try and not starve to death/betrodden all over.

"craven to the unions"

Hahahahaha

What is happening on the electoral reform issue? Is that another thing that is going to be quietly dropped while the LibDems get on with the business of selling every principle they ever had down the river letting the Tories govern.

I think the LibDems already fucked us all over on that one when they settled just for a referendum on AV that their coalition partners won't even have to support.

It's of no further interest as it doesn't involve slashing and burning while wringing hands earnestly and posing with a baby.