Depressed lefties - what now, is there any hope?

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I hate what this government are doing. All the sh*t about 'if you're poor/disabled' we'll look after you - yeah right, by designing a test which tries to make people who are disabled look like they're not. Everything else too.

Do you think Ed Miliband will lessen the chances of us being stuck with the tories for another 5 years? I can't bear them.

He was lovely, GetOrf. When he signed my book I asked him for advice on revitalising our local Labour party (which is practically non-existent here) and he was really helpful. I was so overcome that I didn't notice him holding out his hand, so my husband stepped up and shook it instead, leaving CM looking a bit bemused. I'm a total social moron!

You will be in his next volume of diaries

'I tried to shake the hand of a delightful woman who was interested in grass roots politics, she looked terrified and in the ensuing embarassed pause a complete stranger strolled up and shook my hand instead'

Oh yes, PFI

You can see the attraction of pfi, as with the current policy of devolve everything and be responsible for nothing, no one can blame you for anything and you can just fart about being very grown up and serious in a nice suit whilst fiddling expenses.

Good. Come on, what was that old slogan? Something and organise?

I suspect we need to start an MN branch of the Tea Party Movement for all the disillushioned and dispirited of both right and left.

Of course we'll need a woman to lead it who scrubs up reasonably well, doesn't mind hunting furry animals and lives somewhere cold and remote with its own oil.

I dont mimd making the tea and looking after the DCs during meetings - just as long as y'all you dont be callin' me Dude.

My favourite slogan? 'If I'm cooking for the revolutionaries, it's not my revolution.' (Spanish civil war, I think.

You're thinking of OR-gernize, OC-kewpie and KICK THE TORIES OUT.

Am I?

I used to march with SAC, but mainly because I fancied the leadership en masse.

"You're thinking of OR-gernize, OC-kewpie and KICK THE TORIES OUT."

Quite. Unfortunately, the SWP and their fellow travellers couldn't organise, barely managed to occupy and failed totally to kick the Tories out.

They did, however, provide an agreeable social meeting place for nice young middle class boys and girls, who could then go home in the long vac after Hillarybenn term and tell mater and pater that they were now revolutionaries.

It did used to amuse me that none of the student revolutionaries ever had actual jobs of any kind ever, even in the holidays. .

Oh, and it's reminded me that the other workers, young and full time, refused to join me in starting a union in case they got in trouble..happy days.

Socialist Workers Party: wrong on all three counts.

The party bit was quite accurate. There were a lot of those.

tokyonambu - yes indeed.

I knew a SWP type just as you describe. Even managed to get himself arrested for protesting outside some meeting in Oxford where Margaret Thatcher was speaking.

The photo of him being led away in handcuffs by the police was on the front of the Times which is where his mother first discovered the news of his arrest as she read it over her breakfast toast.

He is now a senior consultant surgeon.

"The party bit was quite accurate. There were a lot of those."

Oh, I see the SWP's split again.

My Dad was a miner and during the strike some very posh SW students from Leeds Uni polled up to various meetings to offer advice on revolutionary tactics and generally gush over what a grand time it was.

Our next door neighbour, whose wife had left him, got completely pissed and chased them away with a hammer LOL.

well you know what they say

"if you're not a socialist before you're 21, you've got no heart, but if you're a socialist after you're 21, you've got no head"

If the above is true, and I am not doubting it, how can we explain the age of the members of the Labour shadow cabinet? Is it that they act like they are under 21?

head firmly intact thank you

I didn't realise they were recreating teh French revolution (oof with their 'eads) on MN but with Socialists this time- oh wait

Doh silly me, course that's what they were up to!

I on the other hand watched a fellow-protester having her arm broken by a policeman at a demo outside the college where Thatch was unveiling a statch of herself.

I was not a member of the SWP.

Ooh, I was at an outside-of-college demo against a visting Thatch too, during the miners' strike. No statue, though, so perhaps not the same demo.

No, all the lefties are doomed.....especiallly with that daft bugger Ed Milliband as leader.
Where are you Claig? one leftie is asking for your guidance on how it all went wrong for the labour party. I would explain why,
but can't be arsed to list their failures over 13 years!